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  1. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    Hello Pech01, there are no silly questions. As SoCal1 say, the numbers ar knowen.

    Classiche also for this cars will be a big Point in the future. For '95 cars it is possible, for the others???
     
  2. pech01

    pech01 Rookie

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    Damn, that was some Ferrari-fast answers:) So Ferrari actually kept a record?

    Thanks for teaching me!
     
  3. SoCal1

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    I was going to clean mine up a little from race days and after getting that phone call at 6 am telling me don't touch it. I am listening

    :)
     
  4. Robb

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    Tim,

    Thanks for this info. I'm not sure about the thoroughness of detail between 2 and 3.

    As you know, racing parts have certification shelf lives - correct?

    What happens when the original seats are swapped out for later year OMP's because in order to race, the original seats are now expired? Many owners tossed the seats. What about other items on safety like fire extinguishers that have expired.

    Our F355 challenge will be heading back to the track so it has been updated along the way with new parts. I doubt the guys on track want a '95 fire extinguisher. What about drilled vs slotted rotors? We will be going slotted...

    I think classiche might not be a good thing for the challenge cars unless they allow for safety improvements. Otherwise it's a museum exercise.

    Curious as to more info. Thanks for posting more as you find out.

    Robb



     
  5. bobzdar

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    I think you nailed it, Robb. Classiche is a museum exercise, and not just for the race cars...
     
  6. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    #232 Ferrari 308 Vetro, May 31, 2015
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    Sorry, don't agree, Classiche will be more and more important, also for our CH cars. I will do if for a 355 CH 1995, car raced till and won the 2000 Championship.

    For my 348 Champion '93 Challenge I have the Classiche. Car was built '89, raced in '93 and '94, still in Period condition. Also a Big point will be the correct enginenumber.

    There is a special thread About CH and Classiche: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/challenge-gt-cars/473274-challenge-cars-ferrari-classiche.html
     
  7. bobzdar

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    Important for the museum pieces and 'investment' cars, not the cars that are actually used.
     
  8. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Also agree, if you want to race, you Need a lot of new Parts. Possible is also both.
     
  9. GerryD

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    It would be very interesting to see a list of the actual "real" challenge car VINs.
    With the prices being where they are and are going, someone may get burned with an imitation.
     
  10. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    @GerryD, this is the Big Point for the Future, the real Challenge cars, fakes are Coming, I am sure.
     
  11. GerryD

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    #237 GerryD, May 31, 2015
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    I was looking in that virtual book of serial numbers and there are close to 300 355 challenge vins in there. Over the years I've heard that there were only 108(ok 109) challenge cars. Weird that nobody seems to know for sure. There are also 3 GTS challenge cars in there. How in the world can a GTS be a challenge car?
     
  12. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Total of 109! Not more...
     
  13. GerryD

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    It will be interesting to see how many are owners of imitation challenge cars when somebody gets the VINs on here.......some day. I have a letter from Ferrari stating that mine is a challenge race car and cannot be titled for the road.
     
  14. SoCal1

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    I have the book, it's not a bible just collected info
    I did find a few mistakes with just cars in my and my partners stable. From 250 to 355's
     
  15. GerryD

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    From what I have seen in just a couple of hours, that book is full of errors upon errors and completely useless. I know my road car was bought here in Toronto and yet it is listed as American. It would seem that this book is a collection of hearsay and nothing more.
     
  16. wrxmike

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    The 109 number is what has been published in the back of Cavallino magazine. That number is wrong, probably just the number of cars assembled at the factory.

    Based on "in period" records, there where at least 254 F355 Challenge cars.

    The majority of F355 Challenge race cars where created when a local Ferrari importer ordered a Berlinetta and the kit of F355 Challenge parts and then put them together, the end result is exactly the same ( it had to be to be eligible ) There where advantages in doing this - the road car bits could be sold to reduce the cost, and the concessionaire could keep a "kit in stock" rather than a race car, that kit could also be used as a source of spares to support race cars. (The kit part numbers in the Challenge parts book ).

    You're correct, a GTS cannot be a race compliant F355 Challenge car.
     
  17. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    #243 Ferrari 308 Vetro, Jun 1, 2015
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    And here we have a "fake" 355 Challenge for sale...

    Super rare Ferrari 355 Challenge Only108 produced For Sale (1996) on Car And Classic UK [C620663]

    355 Challenge
    Racing seats
    Fire extinguisher
    Engine cutoff switch
    Manual radiator fan control, upgraded fans
    Competition steering wheel
    Lightweight exhaust
    Rear wing
    Competition clutch
    Upgraded 14" Brembo brakes (F40 type)
    18" Speedline magnesium wheels
    Pirelli racing slicks
    Solid suspension bushings and competition springs
    Front and Rear brake cooling ducts
    Challenge black rear grille (halfway through the 1995 season to get extra air through the engine-bay)
    Lightened front bumper
    Front and rear tow hooks
    The F355 Challenge shares the same engine tuning and physical dimension specifications as the original. Horsepower is up slightly owing to the free-flowing non-street-legal racing exhaust kit. 108 were produced, all with the 6-speed transmission (except for 1 that was equipped with a F1 gear box for a handicapped client).[citation needed] There were 18 RHD cars imported by Ferrari UK and modified by MHT. Some of these rare cars have now been converted to be street legal. Each F355 Challenge has an emblem on the rear that specifically denotes 'F355 Challenge'.


    Price: £118000 As stated
    Advert Type: For Sale
    Category: Modern Cars
    Make: Ferrari
    Model: F355
    Model (alt): 355 Challenge
    Year: 1996
    Country: Hong Kong
    Town: Taikoo Shing
    Telephone: 852-63199909
    Status: Private
    E-mail: Contact Advertiser via Email
    Listing Date: 30-May-2015
    Ref: C620663
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  18. ignominus

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    Which "in period" records are you referring to? You number is quite precise so I would assume it comes from a serious source. I think that would be great if you could share that with us.
    Best


     
  19. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    I am not the seller, I only want to Show this here. This is no Challenge car...
    It makes the People believe it is one ;-)
     
  20. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    #246 Ferrari 308 Vetro, Jun 1, 2015
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  21. GerryD

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    This is an obvious one as it dosnt have the wing, brakes, tow hooks, race seats, roll cage or cut off switch just to name a few. This scam is for the very ignorant buyer.
     
  22. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    @GarryD, agree and this will be the problem of the Future...
     
  23. wrxmike

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    And the wheels ....
    Well at least the grille and badge are correct :)

    Pretty difficult (perhaps impossible these days ?) to find all the bits required to re-create a Challenge car.
     
  24. bobzdar

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    I think it would cost more than buying an actual challenge car, tbh...
     

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