Ferrari f430 or Corvette ZR1

I thought that was a new George Forman grill under the plastic...

 

how about new ZR1 or used 360 f1?

 

You buy a Ferrari for the passion, you buy a Corvette for the muscle and power.

Obviously I'd go for the Ferrari. That's why I'm on "FerrariChat"

 

No you don't. You see the exact same thing as the Chevy: an intake plenum. It sits on at least like 20cm of velocity stacks. The actual engine is so far down in my spider that I've never actually seen it I don't think, even though I've popped the bonnet a couple times.

This is in contrast to my old Supra: you can't help but see the engine and its easy to touch.

I do agree that the intake plenum on the Ferrari is a class act, but a glass window to look at it on the Spider is as stupid as the one on the Chevy. Put it this way: if I had a ZR1 I'd try to get a Z06 bonnet for it. (As well as scrapping the interior. As well as looking for any bodykit that is more understated than stock!)

 

Secret ballot on our OP owning both or either car. Poseur. Kind of obvious.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

I can't believe ZR1s are going for $30K+ MSRP in this marketplace!

 

The ZR1 could do 0-60 in 1.4sec, pull 4g on the pad, be made of gold and it still wouldn't turn my head. I think it is great GM made something that performs well, but it is still GM. IMO, they should only build trucks and SUVs, and they're not that good at that either. I know people who love Corvettes and wouldn't consider anything else, they just don't get to me like Ferraris do.

 

ummm.... I read your post and it does not state the you own both, it is postioned as a hypothetical question.

So YOU stand corrected, I can read... I accept your apology....Perhaps you can't write!

My answer still stands... *you* should stick with the vette

 

Oh yea, YOU may want to learn how read as well learning to write. My answer is below and makes no reference as to whether you own them or not. Just a simple request to keep to keep you out of the gene pool. My guess is your arithmetic would be called into question as well.

Reading, writing, and arithmetic... That was learned in school, No?

"Anyone that asks a silly question like that belongs in a corvette so we keep you out of the Ferrari gene pool "

 

Credibility = zero.

Incidentally, it is you're wrong. Your cars (not) but "you are" contracted is you're. You need even more college once you get out of high school.

It would have been possible to start a nice discussion on the differences between a ZR1 and a 430, but that is not what you did. A more realistic discussion would have been between a 599 and a ZR1, or a Z06 and a 430, roughly performance equivalents.

I really enjoy interacting with the young Ferrari-loving posters here on the Forum who admit they are young and really want to learn about the cars and one day own a Ferrari. It is not much fun when someone pretends to be someone they are not. Have to put up with the good and the bad, I guess. Luckily most of the interchanges here are very positive.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

For me , 430 for sure regardless I have never driven a ZR1; not because of the name but a Ferrari Spirit.

I tested driving a Murcielago (e-gear) and a Gallardo-manual-spider side by side compared with my 430-spider yestersday; needless to say, I like the F430 much better than the Lambos - the feeling and handling are totally different.
After the test drive, my desire to purchase a Murcielago was gone :-(

Ferrari is Ferrari , nothing can replace.

 

I would hope the they felt different since they are all wheel drive, but if you ever get the chance drive one that has been converted to RWD. I was hoping I would see less of a Ferrari is a Ferrari, and more appreciation of what a great car the ZR1 is. I will own one of these at some point down the line, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, no it is not a Ferrari, but either is my moded 997S, or my moded gallardo, both of which are faster, handle better, and are more fun the drive than any Ferrari I've owned. I will own a few more Ferrari's before I am done, but I am not blinded to the other amazing cars that are out there.

 

I'd stick with a car from a company that's still going to be in business in 12 months. Lets see.....Chevy.....Ferrari.....Chevy......Ferrari..........who's auditors just said they don't have money for continued operations.....?

...just sayin'.....

 

Morrie- I have owned 10 Corvettes, from a 1961 to a 2008 Z06. They are great cars and, based on everything I have read, the ZR1 is the best of them all, and would be even if it did not have 638 hp. Corvette shortcomings are mostly cost related, with every nickel being watched on interiors, etc. The frequency response of the Corvette transverse elliptics is inferior to that of the coil springs on the Ferraris and Lamborghinis, giving the Italians a handling advantage on rough or irregular roads and during rapid changes of direction. The transverse elliptics do give some advantage in unsprung weight, since only the tips are unsprung, but this does not translate into much real world advantage because of the springs' frequency response.

One thing Corvettes do have over most Ferraris is wheel and tire size. In general, the Ferraris are underwheeled and undertired for their weight, and would corner better with wider wheels and tires. The fact they are fitted with relatively low life, very sticky tires makes up for some of that deficit, but a ZR1 corners about 0.10 "g"s better than a 599. The mid-engine layout of the 430 makes up for some of that, and the Scuderia is even closer.

I have said this before, the Corvette and the Ferrari do not compete in the new car market.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Taz:

I agree, and I doubt there have been many who have had to make such a choice.

 

Yup- Have a nice day and enjoy your "cars".

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Thread is now useless and I for one was interested in the car talk.
There's far less drama on the Nissan GTR boards.

 

Stick to the GTR site. Ferrari's are'nt about 0-60 times. If you own one, you've outgrown that crap. And anyone that owes one understands the meaning behind the statement, "It's a Ferrari."

 

Get the F430 no question. Forget about the cheesy Corvettes. If you want American Muscle get yourself a Shelby GT500, reflash the tune and swap the pulley out and enjoy your 600 hp brawler.