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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Ferrari 308 GTB, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. buddyg

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    Thanks now take a video winding it out and through the gears!
     
  2. LVP488

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    Indeed they are the same size as the non-carbon ones - I really thought they had been extended. The Geneva showcar with the carbon options had extended paddles, as depicted in Ferrari's media gallery. It's a real shame if they deliver the customers cars with the short carbon paddles.
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  3. Coincid

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    Tech at the dealer advised it is a simple task which they will undertake whe then car arrives. It does not involve any ECU reprogramming.
     
  4. Drson

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    I inquired about having the valves opened/pinned open on the F8 and my dealer told me this is not advisable because it can cause engine damage, check engine lights and performance issues......that being said I had this done on my 2015 458 and never had any issues.....so what is the real answer? Maybe someone can enlighten me...thanks in advance
     
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    Coincid will definitely confirm when he gets his F8 :)
     
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    Mine will be here next week. My dealer said same. They can not open valves in F8 (or Portofino). . Ferrari made a change and these are electronic and won’t allow it (he did say the hope is someone will figure it out). Fingers crossed
     
  7. mdrums

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    Do the valves open up around 3k rpm depending on throttle like they do on the 488?
    Seems odd about engine damage as the valves just control sound at low rpm by diverting exhaust to muffler or not. There is gas pressure difference but still not really much and just sound difference.
     
  8. Jo Sta7

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    Owners better post up reviews when they receive the cars.
     
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    Yeah, I heard the same thing. If that’s the case we should be able to get the remote valve control I had on my 488’s.
     
  10. OSUferrari

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    That will not work. I had that on my 458. Will not work based on my previous post
     
  11. Shadowfax

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    #4012 Shadowfax, Mar 26, 2020
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    Using a valve controller or pegging the valves permanently open on this car is no longer an option due to the pressure sensors pre and post which ensure proper operation of the GPF. Any slight change in pulse or back-pressure and it goes into limp. It's apparently very very sensitive. The pressure in the pipe between the GPF is maintained by the valves. Keep in mind the valves are post the GPF which is precisely why they now have a sensor there now so if the valves don't work properly the ECU can detect it and shut the system down. The valves are also electronic so they can open the valves up incrementally depending upon what the ECU reads as necessary to maintain the correct pressure within the pipe. A VTG turbo works in a similar way being electronically actuated where the vanes move incrementally, controlled by the ECU and the various associated sensors.

    On the Pista and 488 the valves are vacuum controlled and are either fully open or closed. Pista has the sensor in the plenum and can detect the change in pulse and pressure once the cats are removed. I'm told Pista's system is much more sensitive than 488 but still nowhere near as sensitive as F8's systems. This is the engine advancements claimed by F8. The correct operation of the GPF has been made integral to the proper running of the entire engine, Screw with it and the engine won't run and screwing around with the opening of the valves will have a direct impact.

    My tech assures the F8's intake and exhaust system is fail safe and the only way around the ECU and sensors will be to remap it. For those who believe otherwise let "the horse" be with them.
     
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  12. mdrums

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    Thanks Shadowfax...well that sucks because the sound of the F8’s I have heard is very bland.

    Do the USA cars get a particulate filter?
     
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    #4014 Shadowfax, Mar 26, 2020
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    Seems none are immune to the GPF. Also agree F8's sound is nothing particularly memorable that's for 100% certain, inside or out. But it's the way of the future they say. But re the info that's what my head tech reports and, he's never been wrong on anything so far and, he's top dog out here....one of those guys who lives and breathes the product with a passion (for the past 31 years). But for the sake of others here I truly hope he's wrong on this. I really do. I think someone needs to disconnect their valves and report exactly what happens. And desirably do it in their workshop or in close proximity to.
     
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  14. Jo Sta7

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    I always find cars sound more important in theory and more annoying in practice. A loud car drives by, it rarely ever sounds good. Even most super cars sound, well just loud.
     
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    AND VIDEOS INSIDE AND OUT! STILL AND DRIVING!
     
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    He didn’t seem as wowed as by the Pista, which makes sense.
     
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    His driving reviews, if one can refer to them as such, consist of a gaggle of chuckles interspersed with a dollop of “wows”. His trips on city streets, often in traffic, are hardly the venue to make a determination of the technical and subjective attributes of a super car.
     
  19. ferrarifanatic25

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    It seems none are immune to crazy euro policies... nor East Asian viruses.

    Sorry, I had to (flame suit engaged).
     
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    Seems to be alot of hard plastics in the interior for this money !
     
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    Those are special Italian Ferrari fine crafted interior pieces. Categorically different from “hard plastics” don’t you know!


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  22. of2worlds

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    Well your 2004 MY dollars got you real carbon door panels instead of add on 'trim' there. Not really progress for various reasons; when it comes to the interior design details...

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    as @RichardCH would know!
     

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