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  1. crinoid

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    2 years? I was under the impression every 50k KM.
     
  2. Senad

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    For as much as I know, the guy is just a journalist, not a racing driver.
    There was a passenger in a car.
    So the numbers will go down. Insane
     
  3. Enzo Belair

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    Amen!
     
  4. Enzo Belair

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    That is what they said in the video, I cannot confirm, just quoting the conversation. Seams CRAZY to me as well...
     
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    #2605 xku807, Jul 24, 2025 at 1:51 AM
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    A venturi tube is composed of an orifice, a converging tube and a diverging tube. The diverging tube located aft of the orifice is the diffuser.

    In a ground-effects floor, the “orifice” is the smallest (or tightest) point of the pathway for the airflow, formed by the underfloor tunnels and the road surface.
     
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  6. xku807

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    With the F80, the ground effects “orifice” is 1.8m from the diffuser tip (the longer, the greater the ground effect). This would not have been possible if a V12 was used. The LaF diffuser was only .6m long.
     
  7. jetstream290

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    At last, the correct description/synopsis :)
    In several contexts the generic term "orifice" is commonly replaced with "throat";
    "diverging tube" or "recovery cone" are equivalent and more common than "diffuser"
     
  8. xku807

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    Throat, not orifice is the right term, thanks. As an orifice is a flat plate with a hole.
     
  9. MDEL

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    Ferraris and Maseratis now have practically nothing in common, however there is one criticism they share between the engine twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 Nettuno equipping the top range Maserati models and the twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 in the Ferrari F80. Both engines have a sound deemed too quiet, too subdue, in the case of Maserati specially when compared to the roar of its previous V8s or even twin-turbo V6s. But at the last Goodwood Festival of Speed, Maserati decided to respond to the critics in its own way... or almost, unveiling a new exhaust on the GT2 Stradale, the road-going version of the racing car that entered in the GT2 championship. The result? A deeper, more metallic sound. At Goodwood, the GT2 Stradale literally captivated spectators as it climbed the famous hill while the F80 sound almost went unnoticed.
    There's a catch, though. This new titanium exhaust system it isn't approved for road use and was designed exclusively for track use, it's therefore reserved for owners who intend to enjoy their cars on track days. Good news however, despite everything, Maserati has heeded the enthusiasts' message of disapproval and an improved exhaust system, this time homologated for the road, is being created. Maserati says the sound of this road-going exhaust is closer to that of a real race car, while remaining within legal standards.
    This confirms one thing, Maserati is aware of the criticism in terms of aural emotion and expectations therefore tried to do something to change the state of things. I think F80 owners wouldn't be unhappy if Ferrari took a similar approach.
     
  10. Lukeylikey

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    #2611 Lukeylikey, Jul 26, 2025 at 3:36 AM
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    What utter rubbish. I’ve been involved with many brands’ PR activities including performance brands, SUV brands, electric, everything. We have never once instructed journalists what to say. The best and biggest journalists get invited because it costs a fortune to put on these events and the manufacturer always needs the publicity - whatever the conclusions. It’s not complicated. The fact we don’t invite YouTubers speaking to camera from their living room or equivalent is nothing personal, it’s just a question of maths. This gentleman seems to not have fully understood that.

    As for the F80, there was a clear and positive reception to this car. Witness the lesser response to the XX. UK journalists will not say positive things if they don’t believe them. They have grown up with an almost belligerent attitude towards their own journalistic integrity. They may not be as critical as they could be (but, frankly, I haven’t even seen that) but if a car is terrible you cannot get them to say it is wonderful. Again, look at the XX reviews. Arguably the XX reviews were more important to Ferrari because a wider group of customers could get one and the price was strong so Ferrari would be further into a group of buyers that are new to ‘hypercar’ Ferrari buying and theoretically less sure of their purchase - it was new territory for the brand. As an XX owner, I feel the press narrative about the XX was very pessimistic. If you remember, they just couldn’t get over the fact that it was a road car with the XX name. The narrative was that it was debased, and as such, something of a disappointment. But to drive (at least on road) the car is fantastic. One of the best Ferraris with a mid-engine layout. That seems to be the conclusion of most customers. It is a very different and more hard-edged driving experience to the also-brilliant standard car. So were those tests favourable to Ferrari? Not from where I sit. In fact the reverse. And these were many of the exact same reviewers - James Dennison for CAR magazine, for instance. It therefore seems completely incorrect that they have been forced to say great things about the F80 that they didn’t believe, yet they were allowed to torch the XX (and still got invited back).

    When you’re observing people driving an intense, high-dynamics hypercar with over a tonne of downforce and 1,200hp, for the first time, and on a non-holds-barred track, it would seem poor judgment to mistake quietness for boredom. If you’ve ever done anything similar, it requires intense concentration, even when you are familiar with track driving. Anyone want to be the guy that stacks the car? Hands? Didn’t think so.

    I’m someone who is pretty familiar with public speaking. Whenever I go on really special trips, to places that mean something to me - for example Spa or an Alpine pass that I love, I take video with some commentary to myself so I can remember the occasion and what I felt about the road and the car I’m using. When the road gets really intense, my speech becomes less animated and it’s clear I have less brain capacity for talking because more is being used for driving. I’m often not smiling. But I’m thoroughly enjoying myself and engrossed in the interactions with the road and car. It’s what we love about these things, they have the ability to captivate us at an intensity level that is immersive because concentration equals survival!

    He has clearly not driven the car so it becomes hard to believe his conspiracy theory over all the journalists who ever drove the F80. If the car is good - and why shouldn’t it be - and they all say it, should our first thought be “it’s a conspiracy”?

    I haven’t seen this man’s previous commentary on Ferrari, but often in life people who make the loudest criticisms are more guilty of the same thing than the people they are accusing. If the accusation is that journalists are writing to a narrative, my guess is this video is a perfect example of exactly the same thing.

    Ferrari made a brilliant V6 hypercar. Time to get over it.
     
  11. Juvendude

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    The only thing worse than the dribble being spewed on that video was the annoying background music. Who is that clown?
     
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    His channel is a concentrate of ignorance and trash.
     
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    Wow love the white, that consolidates my color choice.
     
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  15. Johnny_Bravo

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    He's completely right
     
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  17. Johnny_Bravo

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    The guy in the video was right, it's a PIECE OF ****, most of us say that.
    There's nothing brilliant about it: it's ugly, heavy, and has a piece of **** V6 engine.
     
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  18. REALZEUS

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    Who are mist of you? I believe that the customers have spoken with their wallets...
    If can;t understand what performance is, you must not partake into these discussions.
     
  19. maximilien

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    Living only to create controversy is to be dead inside
     
  20. maximilien

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    And reading you, you’re no better than that YouTuber.
     
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  21. Enzo Belair

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    OMG this guys is nothing more than an algorithm whore! He is a master of one thing, understanding what is sticky on the internet and how to capitalize on it. As well know when you go super controversial and negative in a world of positive accolades, you get a tone of views. Watch all of his s*^t videos, this is his "whitespace" and how he runs his channel. The proof is undisputed, we all watched it and we are all talking about it, his simple goal. He is the embodiment of a classic "troll", who is doing a great job of capitalizing on it.

    If you get suckered into his videos you are not learned, you just got trolled!
     
  22. No, the only thing worse is posting that video and then commenting on it.

    We are all at fault here.
     
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  23. Juvendude

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    You have a point but the way this chap rags on the car WITHOUT having driven it and probably never having seen it in the flesh, while declaring that anyone finding the aesthetics of the car in any way appealing is wrong, or stupid, or self deluded just rubbed me the wrong way... and that is not to mention his grand conspiracy theory I see repeated here all too often that the journos lucky enough to have driven the F80 all secretly hated it but refrained from giving their honest opinions for fear of pissing off Ferrari. This was probably the worst car review I have ever sat through and I just couldn't help myself from adding my 2 cents.
     
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  24. jumpinjohn

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    I didn’t waste time watching. If I could get an allocation, I would order the F80. I don’t think it is the most beautiful car. But then I also thought the F40 was not beautiful. The LaFerrari was beautiful. The 288 GTO was beautiful. To my eyes. I even thought the Testarossa was somewhat unfortunate looking from a beauty standpoint. But I would have had a Testarossa back then if I could have. Got to drive one once and it was spectacular (at the time). Rode in the F40, didn’t drive. It was sensational but I didn’t want to own it.

    People say all kinds of crap - usually about things they could not accomplish or things they cannot afford. Social media just amplifies it. So, just don’t take the bait and respond. It takes a special kind of person to log in, read, and spend the time negative commenting. That kind of special is not something to which I aspire.

    But back to the real topic. I think the F80 is spectacular. Yes, I would love to have a v12 that redlines about 11k. But that would probably be in addition to, not instead of the F80. I just hope the SF90 replacement is spectacular. It will probably be the last mid engine I get (If I can swing the allocation). :)
     

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