I'd pass, I'd rather have a go with a F40, F50 or F70 instead. The F80 looks twitchy and heavy on those previous videos, and the F70(LaF) have enough playability in its chassis and suspension geometry
Interestingly, even Ferrari didn't release officially 1.15.3 on his website, only external press is mentioning it, so I guess they would like to release future video like done for SF90 XX stradale. About 499P and modificata, in the hands of a proper driver, LHM is very capable of being much faster than any road car, and 499Modificata will be even faster if driven by Pierguidi and mates, so a laptime of 1.07 is reasonable. On the other hand, those vehicles are limited to very special hyperclub customers, and quite challenging and compelling. For a more GT feel, the same special customer of hyperclub, competizioni GT, F1 clienti and XX programme, F80 XX will be plenty fast enough and more related to next road vehicle innovations.
In an interview, Flavio Manzoni stated: “When you try to create something strange, just to shock – there is no taste. That’s why there are so many ugly cars! You need a perfect fusion between technical innovation and art.” Did he achieve the perfect fusion in the F80 ?
The truth is time will tell. When the F40 came out I heard from some that it looked like a kit car, and I still hear that sometimes from mainly people who think Ferraris should be more classically styled. Yet I think it’s beautiful. I heard the F50 is ugly when it debuted, I don’t hear the word “ugly” anymore, though we can all agree maybe it’s not the very best looking. When the Enzo came out people said it also was ugly. I don’t hear that anymore either. When the LaFerrri debuted many were not sure of the styling. It is nearly impossible for us, as enthusiasts, to not want them to keep doing what we love. But if you keep doing the same thing all the time, then you don’t grow.
So this race inspired car looks bad and nobody likes it, correct? Ciao P.S. Thanks to my friend Riccardo Innocenti (A pro photographer) for the pictures Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
No. The front and rear might have worked better in a different body as it is too boxy for that curvy-looking greenhouse imho
Overall, I don't love it. But - ex the black strip - I don't dislike it and can definitely see it growing on me. But I don't think I'll ever be able to look past the hamburgler mask. It's all I see, and that's not a good thing.
I think that , besides the some top managment positions and also F Manzoni, Ferrari should also thank their photographers and hire new guys. Honestly, the official photos for years now are average at best.
I'm part of the today's minority who love the design but the V6 is unacceptable. The F140 is now too old and heavy, Ferrari could have developed a new lighter and more powerful V12 and it would have been the perfect car to inaugurate it (A.k.a Enzo 20 years ago). Regarding the production numbers and price point, it’s around €2.4 billion. So to people who claim here that a new engine dvlp doesn’t make sense from a business perspective—it certainly does. Sacrificing a bit of margin to maintain the exclusivity and brand image as pinnacle of the automobile industry. (next quarter results won) Purist once beloved are now an embarrassment. As a whole, society wants us to disappear, I will not drift in political talk, but as we know, when I say "disappear" it doesn't stop to the car we drive.
Reminds me of the McLaren Senna. There is a difference between a track car and a road car. I prefer the SP3 Daytona over the F80.... easily
I don't think inclusion of V12 in Ferrari Supercar would represent a lack of growth. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The program (programme) for the 499P Modificata is called Sport Prototipi Clienti. HyperClub is something completely different: it's for watching race cars drive, not driving them.
The looks aren’t the only part of the story. Perhaps the minor one. Only six cylinders combined with a price that is almost three times (!) as high as the LaF may rise the question whether it is possible to be sold 799 times. A sales volume of an estimated 3“5 billion €! Wealthy world.
Thee SP3 is stunning and one of the best looking Ferrari ever: the reason is that its shape is a modern copy of 330P4 with the 250P5 tail finish. This F80 is not so stunning, but it isn't a copy of an old Ferrari Ciao
“I spent a lot of time looking at different power units,” he said. “The obvious choices were a V6 – either single or twin-turbo – or a high-revving, naturally aspirated V12. “In the end, I came to the conclusion that it should be the V12 because of what that allowed us to do in terms of structural mounting, because it’s a very well-balanced engine with good NVH characteristics. With a turbo, you need intercoolers; by the time you’ve put those on, the weight is fairly similar. Technically, the V12 was marginally superior, but it was a close call.” For those that forgot. Early on in the development of the Valkyrie (when it was still AMRB-001) Newey was considering a turbo V6 instead of a V12. That turned out to be a miscalculation NVH-wise. He learned his lesson and the new RB17 is using a semi stressed structure like the GMA T50. But again, just imagine if Newey had accepted LCDM's advances back in 2016. Can anyone seriously say they wouldn't prefer an F80 with a screaming V10 + lightweight hybrid and a sub 1100kg weight? A V10 would also be a great reference to the Schumacher era. One can dream....
To your point about supply vs demand, there is strong case to be made for a lightweight, more analogue, supercar that is not chasing crazy figures. As evidenced by the demand for stuff like the GMA cars, Singer restomods, other restomods, etc. And Ferrari would have significant advantages over the restomods and more boutique manufacturers in regards to reliability, service, resale, etc. If emissions is a problem, what is stopping them from splitting off the Icona series into a seperate entity like Aston Martin/Nebula? They also have the technology from the F80 to add a mild hybrid with a minimal 40-50kg weight penalty.