Ferrari F80

I'm sure it looks stunning in person but in pictures it looks like a lego car.

 

True. Pictures often give false impression for this car. It does have sharp edges but that won't make it a lego car.

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We must do Flavio Manzoni justice because he explained why he put the black visor on the front of the F80. In short, he wanted to be original, futuristic and anti-anthropomorphic so that the front of the F80 would not be comparable to that of its predecessors or to that of any other Ferrari of the past except the 12C, which he created and follows a similar concept.
When I compare the front of the F80 with those of all its predecessors representing various eras, IMO the F80's is the least achieved and it seems to me that it would not have been difficult to do much better, which is why I say that Manzoni "ruined" it in search of originality, futurism and ultimately to feed his ego.



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What I read between the lines of that fantasy story he's telling, is that he's run out of ideas for headlight designs - or someone at the top doesn't want to invest in the production of custom headlight designs, and thus they aren't designed. Did anyone ever, in the history of car design, complain that a car was anthropomorphic?

It's like an amateur painter looking at all the beautiful paintings in the Louvre and convincing himself that "No, I don't want my paintings to look like that, I'm going to paint a Rothko".

 

Great text

 

Well, I do. Not so many years ago they used hidden headlamps and many race cars have not headlights at all, so for me the idea is not so far-fetched.

I don´t want to get into the non-figurative art debate because that´s too complex for me.

 

I really like the effort you do with the comparison pictures. Thanks for those!

Anyway, I think F80 is an evolution of its predecessors. F50, Enzo and LaFerrari all refer to F1 nose designs of their time. In F80 this trend continues, the visor being the angled F1 front wing.

Black pieces come and go in Ferrari designs. The black visor in F80 is nowhere near as distruptive as the black lower half of 365 GT4 BB and 512 BB. This black trend contiued also in Testarossa and 348, but in lesser form.

The combination of black and red is typical also in F1, with arguably the best designs being body in red with black wings.

 

I was expecting few more spec ideas in this thread, I am going in totally blind, I have no idea how I would spec it, generally I have some sort of idea.

 

A couple of thoughts

* take a look at historic/ race car liveries/ designs/ that you enjoy. For example on F80, I think the design concepts of the racing F40s would look pretty good transferred over to F80.

* Your color choices will highlight different aspects. I read this a long time ago on F Chat so apologies to the original author as I just don’t remember who said it- but silvers/greys will emphasize the technical aspects of the car. Black will certainly give it a more sinister, or at times elegant look. I forget what he said about white, but I think it can be seen as a minimalist/ highlighting some design purity. And then colors will highlight emotions.

Personally, lately, I am drawn to something like this:

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/1987-ferrari-f40-lm-pilot-at-rm-sothebys-auction-in-paris-2019.590734/

But thats just me.

 

That’s actually very helpful, I want a race car inspired look, I will do some research, my TM appointment is in few days.

 

This is an example of a possible F80 livery, inspired by a Ferrari 250 GT SWB Berlinetta Competizione that raced the tour de France, with Argento Nürburgring paint as opposed to the original’s French Racing Blue. The only "problem" with the improved front of this F80 has to do with the suppression of the black visor. I presume that in real life that will only be feasible after walking over Flavio Manzoni’s dead body.






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They will not let you change the black visor in front, they will not let you do the rear deck in colored carbon, no stripe on the nose/front visor or the first outtake vent on the front hood.

 

Have fun! If you can look at various designs and send them in to them it helps or even if you just bring print outs with you.

 

I actually looked at that for inspiration, I am hoping that TM will allow a full black “canopy” including engine cover, that way I can think of few options.

 

I have no ideas and the appointment is in 48 hours LOL, I will see how I go.

 

Below are some ideas, there are more available on-line, of liveries that can inspire an F80 from models like the P4/5 and the FXXK that have similar racing DNA. Perhaps some of these ideas could work equally well on the F80 may be with the exception of the front where the black visor if maintained will probably require other types of solutions.

Good Luck on your decision



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Indeed but you could easily have it wrapped. Assuming you can find a color-matching one of course.

 

MDEL thank you for the time you took to present those suggestions.

Today I have met an aerodynamicist who was involved in developing the F80 and has worked on it for 4 years, I have had a long and very interesting discussion with him about the car and its development process, the car is absolutely something else and I am even more excited about it.

 

The F80 is indeed a showcase for the ultimate in technology and I'm certain that your conversation with the aerodynamicist who developed it must have been very interesting and unique. In terms of performance what we known is that the F80 is the fastest road-legal Ferrari ever however, more than 6 months have passed since its launch and apart from a few promotional drive tests carried out at Fiorano, exclusively by the brand's drivers, no one outside of this restricted circle has yet been able to test the car on either the track or the road. I do not know why Ferrari has not yet allowed the specialized press to test the F80, but I think it will not be long before this will have to happen in order that we mortals have the much-awaited feedback.
If it is not a very well kept secret, perhaps in the future you will be able to reveal to us here what exterior configuration you've chosen for your F80.

 

I will try to get some of your questions answered tomorrow but I doubt they will disclose many things which aren’t happy to disclose to the press which is understandable.

I have exchanged phone numbers with the aerodynamicist so I can pick his brain on more development details because I love to geek on that sort of stuff he told me that there is some crazy aero on the car and it was extremely challenging to engineer due to the car’s required street car height, there was a lot of wind tunnel testing and from what I have deducted from our conversations in terms of benchmarking Ferrari is very serious of delivering a 499P Stradale in the F80, in terms of development there has been quite a symbiotic relationship between the two cars with testing being done on the F80 for the 499P and vice-versa.

I am willing to bet that a lot of people once they learn the true nature of the F80 will change their views on the car which I’m most cases is based on aesthetic and sound, this car will be VERY special in particular if you are into racing and race cars.

 

How can Ferrari stop you from getting rid of that black visor ?!

 

They cannot, you can just not order it changed, you would need to do it aftermarket.

 

499p is my favorite Ferrari, F80 is my 2nd favorite Ferrari. Ferrari F80 is a gift from the track for the street.