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  1. MarinoPerformanceMotors

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    Apr 22, 2021
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    West Palm Beach Florida
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    Marino Performance Motors
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  3. Scott98

    Scott98 Formula 3
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    Nov 3, 2004
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  4. vjd3

    vjd3 Formula 3
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    Actual photo or Photoshop? No Ferrari logos on the shields or wheelcaps? Where does the top go?
     
  5. NYC Fred

    NYC Fred F1 Rookie
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    Got a 'top up' pic?
     
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  6. chrlsstyles

    chrlsstyles Formula 3

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    Calipers look a lil backwards too.
     
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  8. FerrariTexas

    FerrariTexas Karting

    Aug 31, 2009
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    Very Interesting and unique is it April 1?

    Definitely need more photos - of top, from the rear of the car, backseat, and more.
     
  9. 32 Ford

    32 Ford Karting

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    Definitely have to have some serious Kahoonas to chop that top. If I was the mechanic, I would be saying to the boss. Are you sure this is the right car?o_O Looks better than a hard top
     
  10. Jaguar36

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  11. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 Veteran
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    279k


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  13. absent

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    Wanted to see whether their website had some detailed pictures with more info what and how they did it.
    Disappointed, asking $279K and only 2 low resolution pictures, one that is shown here and another of the dashboard in Black/Red colors, generic picture that could be of any FF.
    ZERO information or photos of the roof and how it was resolved.
    Good luck with the sale.......
     
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  14. TJsBeer

    TJsBeer Formula Junior
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    Why are the Cavallino Rampante logos photoshopped out?
    Definitely need some more details and photos.
     
  15. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian F1 World Champ
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    weird. (sure, the car is weird, but the ad is far weirder than the idea of a chop top FF).
     
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  16. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd F1 World Champ
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    Unless the A pillars are reinforced...BIG Time...which they do not look like now..This is B O G U S.
     
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  17. slm

    slm F1 Rookie
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    Has to be a photo shop. Front and back calipers are on the opposite sides of the wheels. Shield is in very non-standard position. Body lines look more Portofino than FF. Interior and exterior photos different locations with much different technique.
     
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  18. fboutlaw

    fboutlaw Karting

    Dec 3, 2014
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    Woodside, CA
    This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

    If you click the link, the calipers reverse on the website between images. No image of top up. Feels very bait.
     
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  19. NuorderSG

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    LoL..Nigerian Scam. Give me da credit card for deposit "Mon." My Moma only drive on SUNday Mon.
     
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  20. Natkingcolebasket69

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    #17 Natkingcolebasket69, May 3, 2021
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    Guys u are just being stupid now. It’s one thing U don’t like it but Marino Motorsport is a super reputable dealer in the west palm beach region.
    So it’s not a scam whatsoever


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  21. mkraft3003

    mkraft3003 Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2016
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    Tampa, Fl
    Can we assume you have some interest in the company or just quick to come to their defense?. So where are the actual photos of the car for sale? Reading the OP other posts he admits these are photoshop photos that the customer designed and photoshopped themselves. At the same time they have a completed car for sale. It may be a good idea to actual post photos of the actual car with roof up and down. The ad on their own website is the photoshopped version. If they have a car for sale please post actual photos of the car. In my opinion, advertising a 279k car and using a photoshop picture is not very good way of doing business.
     
  22. Natkingcolebasket69

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    I have 0 interest like minus 100000 interest... but reading they are a scam is just plain stupid.


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  23. mkraft3003

    mkraft3003 Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2016
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    Tampa, Fl
    More or less stupid than advertising a 279k car and using fake photoshopped pictures in the ad? I think there is absolutely a reason to think something may be a scam based on the pictures. May be perfectly legit and some actual photos can resolve it.
     
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  24. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    the ferrari shields and embalms have mostly likely been removed because as a convertible the car isn't how it left the factory structurally...so im sure ferrari told them they had to...same as they did with gated 6.

    i really like the look of it...
     
  25. MarinoPerformanceMotors

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    Apr 22, 2021
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    Marino Performance Motors
    Not a scam guys. See video [ below ] of top being removed. The car is in production in Florida. Photoshop was the start of the process. Just trying to get the word out. Logos removed because he wants to voluntarily respect trademarks. This is aftermarket and not Maranello made. Buyer can put whatever logo they want. More hi-res pics and video to come in the following weeks. Here's the post from another thread on F-chat:

    The most important question is "structural integrity". Custom Builders LLC out of Gainseville Florida is doing the conversion. They recently stopped doing bespoke for a big contract with Dodge. However, the owner and our customer shared a common passion for this car which is how all this began. Custom Builders has a proprietary "web" under carriage and interior "cage" reinforcement mechanism that recently was awarded one of the highest ratings for convertible stability from Roush Adavanced Engineering in Michigan. They even beat OEM designs.

    Having said that, the renderings you see began with our customer ( he did them himself in photoshop ) and the expectation was the engineering would include the undercarriage reinforcement and internal cage from Custom Builders. Prior to cutting the roof off, measurement beams were set up to measure the "bend" in order to implement the webbing offset. Much to everyone's surprise and delight, when the car was "cut", the frame did not budge. Because Ferrari did such an awesome job designing the AWD chassis, the center of gravity and structural rigidity fell below the line of the cuts by a significant margin. They considered adding the webbing anyway for "marketing purposes" but thought it was better to leave the car as original as possible ( provided there was no appreciable loss in rigidity...which there was not ). The internal "cage" structure which houses the automatic canvas roof mechanism is still important for smooth roof operation and cabin stability. You'll see its implementation in more detail in the weeks to come. Custom Builders has being doing this longer than anyone and actually even includes well known athletes, celebs and even the Pope Mobile. Lol. They are the real deal.

    The weight to horsepower ratio is maintained because the aluminum/fiberglass top that is removed is offset by the similar weight cabin cage, canvass roof and motor.

    The tan interior car is a photoshop render of the before/after concept. The yellow caliper render is the actual Rosso Mugello car that is shown in the video below and associated with the actual carfax. Palm Beach buyers demand pristine cars. They are pre-owned, so when there are issues we address it like a Ferrari dealer and not a "used car dealer". That's why this customer became loyal and chose to do his project through us. He purchased the red Lusso on our site too which is why we're selling his FF. He's decided he likes the tech in the Lusso better. The Lusso will be converted to a convertible next.

    A GTS is not reasonably attainable. The last one sold in Palm Beach went for over $800K and the buyer has to wait 4 more months to get it pre-owned because Ferrari has a minimum hold period of 6 months on the car. They are sold out for 5 years with a 50% waiting list. A clean, properly optioned FF is $150K from us and a GTC4Lusso around $200K. Add $100K for conversion and you have a pretty unique vehicle that seats 4. With V12 discontinuation, the base car has a good chance of starting to appreciate. We are already seeing this bump at wholesale. Left "asis" the FF and GTC4 may flatten and not ride the same wave up as expected in a 599 for example. Ferrari North America confirmed with us V12s are going vintage, so that will be a fun ride for all of us.

    You guys deserve to get the inside scoop and see this all go down because this project is by a regular Ferrari owner, not a tycoon. He's only marketing this through us because the upfront engineering cost is so high from Custom Builders that he's trying to recoup/share some of the cost with like minded owners. This is a limited time project until he gets the exact combination of car, colors and features.

    Again, more "real" hi pics and video will be posted in the weeks to come.
     

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  26. gt1995

    gt1995 Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2011
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    Rockville, MD
    Since you’ve now stated their name ten times in this thread, so you mean Convertible Builders LLC, which does business as Drop Top Customs?

    https://www.droptopcustoms.com/

    I think what we are all having trouble with here is that this car is marketed as already existing, with “photos” that are not if the actual vehicle, a questionable backstory (bought back for a faulty audio system?), and information such as colors that is inconsistent. Not really a good start to marketing a one-off vehicle with some potentially dangerous modifications.
     
  27. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Jesus. Unless you are cutting a check today why doesn’t everyone leave the guy alone. Creativity should be encouraged, not attacked. There excited about the project as they should be.
     
  28. absent

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    Thanks for clarification.
    Your first post looked weird, hence the suspicion but now it's clear.....:cool:
     

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