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  1. kare

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    #26 kare, Nov 22, 2024
    Don't have photos, only notes as reported from several late units in the series. It likely indicates they used tipo 112 castings for engines built to upgraded tipo 128B specs.

    FWIW, engine 0070/M carried an "S" only a few years earlier, standing for sperimentale, I presume.
     
  2. Marcel Massini

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    #27 Marcel Massini, Nov 22, 2024
    I checked about ten sets of build sheets, zero mentioning of an "S2" anywhere, nor any of the many photos of the engine blocks that I have.

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  3. Marcel Massini

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    #28 Marcel Massini, Nov 22, 2024
    Cannot see any "S" here anywhere.
    Maybe I am blind.

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    #30 Marcel Massini, Nov 22, 2024
    Now somebody please post a pic showing "S2".

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  9. Marcel Massini

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    #34 Marcel Massini, Jan 15, 2025
    You forgot 0492 M.
    Which was shown with an unusual snake skin seat material for the seats and dashboard and headrest padding.

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    #35 Aardy, Jan 15, 2025
    Sure Marcel. Pics are in the Ferrari Sport Cars thread as you may have noticed... ;)
     
  11. kare

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    #36 kare, Jan 15, 2025
    Not really a gran turismo.
     
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  13. Marcel Massini

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    #38 Marcel Massini, Jan 15, 2025
    0234 AL was delivered new May 1953. Not 1955.

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    #39 Aardy, Feb 19, 2025
    20-27 February 1955, Universal Travel and Auto Sports Show, Madison Square Garden, New York, United States

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    Some cool cars on Luigi Chinetti stand (0337AL, 0313EU and 0474MD in the background) but the car we are intered us is in front : a 250 Europa GT.
    0365GT went in USA through Chinetti but it was Grigio Azzurro K which doesn't match with the pic (almost white). It looks like to grigio latte MM 15702.
    Do we agree it must be 0361GT ?
     
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    #40 Marcel Massini, Feb 20, 2025
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    0361 GT was sold new to Mrs Paola Ferrari for Mirko Landini in Bologna.
    I took this photo on the 3rd January 1990 when 0361 GT arrived in Berne, Switzerland, at the main customs station, having arrived from USA, on its way to Albert Obrist.

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    #41 Aardy, Feb 20, 2025
    As said Kare previously in this thread, Grigio Metallizzato LC 49, Top LC 2 Max Meyer was most probably for 0357GT.
    We have an early 250 Europa GT that looks like almost white in the b/w pictures. Only Grigio Latte MM 15702 could match and there were no early 250 Europa GT listed with this colour. Then, I agree with Kare this car must be 0361GT and that it came to USA much earlier than we think.
     
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    #42 EnzoNZ, Feb 20, 2025
    I have a photo (source unknown) purportedly showing this Europa GT outside the Brussels motor show in January.

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    #43 Aardy, Feb 20, 2025
    Great pic ! I think you will agree it’s also almost white on the pic. Then most probably Grigio Latte MM 15702. So the same car than the New York show one month later ? Possibly 0361GT. Grigio Azzurro K9 for 0365GT should be darker but correct me if wrong.
     
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    #44 EnzoNZ, Feb 21, 2025
    Perhaps. The front bumper is different - in New York it looks like an area for a plate in the middle?. The photo I found is a little hard to make out but I can't see a chrome strip on the bonnet? If it is the same car then both easily changed.

    Is there a photo of a 'white' Europa at the actual Brussels show? I don't have any.
     
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    #45 Aardy, Feb 21, 2025
    I can confirm your car has the chrome strip on bonnet. There was only one 250 Europa GT at Brussels show : 0363GT and it was azzurro duco which was darker. Then, your « white » car must have been taken outside the show, maybe for customer trials.
     
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    0373GT ?
     
  22. Aardy

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    #47 Aardy, Feb 21, 2025
    No. 0373GT was Grigio Latte MM 15702 but was the first with the new smaller grill. The car outside the Brussels show had the big grill showing it was one of the first seven cars built in the Pf job numbers sequence.
     
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    #49 kare, Feb 21, 2025
    December 1955 or January 1956...?
     
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