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Ferrari Hybrid!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by JohnnyS, Jun 30, 2007.

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  1. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    Ferrari is showing off it's green with a new concept, high performance vehicle, the Ferrari FFX Millechili. Yes, it's a hybrid, and uses it's electric drive train not just to boost power but also to increase efficiency.
    What's really exciting about the FFX is that its made of lightweight materials including carbon fiber, plastic and cardboard.


    Anyone seen this car?
     
  2. RoWis

    RoWis F1 Rookie

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    I'm not sure the cardboard will fare well in a car crash.
     
  3. breakaway_16

    breakaway_16 Karting

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    A Ferrari isn't supposed to be efficient and gas economical. thats the point of a supercar. If your rich enough to own a supercar then you can afford the gas. just my opinion..
     
  4. rem3sam

    rem3sam Karting

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    i have to say that i agree with you. i like the idea of 'leaner' ferrari's though...
     
  5. modena1_2003

    modena1_2003 F1 Rookie

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    I think your missing the point...

    Ferrari are coming to the stage that Koenigsegg have already reached with huge success... about 900bhp and 240+mph of eco-friendly success. More power and speed than any Ferrari.

    As an off-shoot, the original 'Millechili' was designed by Luis Agullo Spottorno and Felix Hiller from the Istituto Europeo di Design of Turin in the "Ferrari of the Future" design contest last year. You couldn't have thought Ferrari were were simply going to hand the boys a gold star and let the grownups talk. This was to find some kind of design-idea for a new car. Maybe an audition for one the the major design houses if you will. Nevertheless, we should raise and eyebrow at what this could really mean.

    By the way, eco-friendly cars are not for saving the daisys, but more so for covering our asses when the dinosaurs finally dry up. Petrol engines will remain, though 'green' cars will be for design and engeneering ... R&D for the future. Suffice it to say that it would be good to know how we will do it, before we have to do it.


    Zoom Zoom.





    Best
    Jon
     
  6. vm3

    vm3 Formula Junior

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    The point is to be socially responsible, to pitch in to the effort to slow down global warming and conserve resources. If everyone thinks that individual contributions are insignificant and excuses themselves from their responsibilities, then collectively the effort will fail and the world will accelerate towards unprecedented disaster.
     
  7. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

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    That's some funny stuff.

    A smaller Ferrari is in the future and it's a good thing. It will be faster in a straight line and around the curves.

    -F
     
  8. PSk

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    I can see no reason why Ferrari cannot make a hybrid, Toyota already make one for Lexus.

    While many moan about inefficiencies of hybrids and look at diesels, the reality is that hybrids are better city cars because you DON'T move much in the city and thus having electric power that is off for most of the time IS more efficient.

    Sure get out on the highways and diesel is better but that is not 95% of modern driving conditions, and even many very small petrol cars ... while great on the highways snck when sitting still in a traffic jam.

    My parents own a Honda hybrid and I think its great to drive and the interesting thing is when the electric motor kicks in to help acceleration it realy moves very well. The other advantage is no longer do we have to suffer the unsophisticated noise of a cheap geared starter motor as you have this great big one as the engines flywheel ... thus you just turn the key and the motor starts, brilliant.

    Hybrids are not perfect but they are a great compromise that works better than anything else in our congested modern cities.

    Basically Ferrari is a business and IF petrol does run out good bye Ferrari so they will have to stay intouch with what else is happening in the automotive sector.

    Saying that I think the first energy efficient Ferrari will actually be a F1 car when the FIA goes nuts with the rules ... just before the protesters start a sit in on the race tracks :(. Ofcourse the protesters will have got there in cars, and will have lighted up and heated their houses the night before to discuss the protest and heck even coordinated via mobile phones (that have to be charged) ... but ofcourse its easier for the greenies to pick on cars instead of energy creation in general.
    Pete
     
  9. seinfeld

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    I personally think its a great change rather than sticking to only gas all the time. It'll be great to see diffrent hybrids compete and who comes out on top!
     
  10. breakaway_16

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    Well at least one person agreed with me..lol. i understand why they are doing it, i'm not saying its not a good thing. all i am saying is when you think back to a time when things were simpler. When cars ran on good old petrol. When you could watch the gas gauge on a super car actually move down towards empty when you punched it. Thats when the era of super cars began. Maybe this "hybrid" thing will take off in the future and safe the earth from, as a wise man (vm3) once said an "unprecedented disaster".
    I'm not against it, its just a weird concept to adjust to.
     
  11. Bryan

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    One option in a transition mode to the future for F1 would be to move to ethanol as the only allowed fuel. Not without it's downside, still nethanol would be a "sustainable" fuel. Might make for a US GP in Iowa popular...
     
  12. Simba

    Simba Formula Junior

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    Kill. It. With. Fire.

    That is all.
     
  13. DGS

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    Nah. When the oil runs low -- or, more likely, when the sources get too much of a pain to deal with -- we'll just synthesize octane compounds from coal.

    Synthetic has already virtually replaced dead Dino for motor oils. Oil prices can only go so high before coal based fuel becomes worthwhile.

    Or just one technical processing enhancement, and nobody'll care about the middle east anymore.

    Gas pump prices, on the other hand, have a lot of factors not related to the price per barrel.

    I can't see any point to a hybrid Ferrari. Anyone who gets sold the "social consciousness" argument against motorcars (or any of the other "eco" attacks on personal mobility) will also probably buy off on the concept that passing is a sin against nature, and that all cars should run exactly the same speed, and that everyone should come to a dead stop before turning the steering wheel.

    (After living through the first "Earth Day", the "acid rain" hype, the "ozone hole" hype, the "vapor recovery fuel pump" hype, et cetera ad blabbage, global warming and hybrids finally pegged my credulity meter. There's just been way too much sunday supplement "science" that doesn't add up.)
     
  14. Argento839

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    Green Ferrari? Silly idea...
     
  15. davebdave

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    How about an all electric Ferrari? How would they get the sound? Perhaps some extra gears and cams would do the trick.
     
  16. Artvonne

    Artvonne F1 Veteran

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    Just seen "ice" again on modern marvels. They have PHD's on the show explaining the layers in ice cores are years, when the discovery of "glacier Girl" has clearly proven the layers are individual snow storms. You have PHD's arguing with aerodynamicists that the airplanes "fell" 263 feet into the glacier, yet the aircraft are sitting dead level, just like they landed, instead of in a nose down attitude as would exist had they "fell". Maybe instead of cave men, Gieco should use PHD's. So simple PHD's can agree. With people that stupid and ignorant running around telling the world the sky is falling, the future outlook seems much less hopeful.

    Its also quite interesting to read up on the dangers of hybrid and electric cars in car accidents or with battery failures. Not only can the batteries they use explode violently, they can burn with incredibly intense heat. Not to even mention thier toxicity.

    I sometimes think they just stand around each other to hear themselves speak.
     

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