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  1. 375+

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    I bought Konradsheim's Carrera RS book from them at a ridiculous discount.
     
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  2. Rosey

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    So they released FIC in 1996 and it seems they were still selling standard (all be it red) editions brand new through the Palawan website up until 2018 or so.
    Is that correct?
     
  3. bloomberg

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    Yes and no. All copies were finally sold out. Due to the cult status of the book the publisher decided to assign 32 numbers of destroyed copies to book blocks that they still had on the shelf. These copies were all hand bound in red buckram and offered for sale.
     
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  4. Rosey

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    When did the blue cloth standard edition sell out ?
     
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  5. bloomberg

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    They sold out in 2001.
     
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    #181 MHK69, May 12, 2022
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    I think around the same time I bought the RS book for $75 from L'art et L'automobile, a deal for sure

    Different times now, seems there's no bargains to be had.
     
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  7. bloomberg

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    Today print runs are smaller, paper more expensive ect. But there will always be bargains, you'll find out.....later.
     
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  8. 375+

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    There can be at large "in person" auctions. Online bidders don't want to pay to collect, pack and ship the books(plus high commissions). There are some good opportunities from time to time.
     
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  9. Rosey

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    I think there are less "bargains" out there then say 20 years ago with the internet providing such an easy way to get a value on things these days.

    Most people these days know what they have, but having said that I've bought a few bargains in some auction houses, mainly when a few books are sold as a bundle once you break down the value per book.
     
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  10. Buchpilot

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    #820 is up for sale at a price of 1,495 USD at eBay:

    https://www.ebay.de/itm/203949525849?hash=item2f7c56cb59:g:L5wAAOSwmkFifwUz

    The seller writes about a "very good condition" and an "excellent condition" (which one is it now?), but one of the images shows heavy damage and a huge scratch at the back cover. So the phrases "very good" and "excellent" are up for discussion ...
     
  11. Rosey

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    Yeah, scratch and corner damage look nasty.... anything but "excellent".
     
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  12. Martin308GTB

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    These phrases are neither trademark protected nor certified in any way. Comparable with the car market. "A very strong runner" :)
    Something different. While I love my "Ferrari in Camera" it also was the trailblazer for many overpriced books to come, which very even more expensive, but lightyears behind Ferrari in Camera regarding quality.

    Best from Germany
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  13. Buchpilot

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    Highest bid was 1,300 euros - not sold.
     
  14. bloomberg

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    In the end quality is the only determinant.
     
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  15. Rosey

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    Same here, I had no idea that when I finally anteed up the money for a copy of FIC I really thought my expensive book spending was over.... little did I know !! :( :(
     
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  16. Buchpilot

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    #62, blue standard edition, safely arrived today. What a great book, indeed!!!!
     
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  17. Doug Nye

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    Re-visiting this site always puts a kind of wry smile on my face. I think if we divide the then-generous sum that publisher Simon Draper paid Geoff Goddard and me by the number of books sold we would be lucky to have earned around £12-£15 per copy. All these years later they sell for how much?

    Fortunately, Geoff (who died in April 2006 aged 76) and I went into it with our eyes open, and the book's status today pays homage to him and to his wonderful work. We preserve his originals today in The GP Library Collection.

    DCN
     
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    Did miss this back then. R.I.P Geoff. I also love your work on "Track Pass", which I purchased soon after Ferrari in Camera and was already a rare item back then.

    Best from Germany
    Marrin
     
  19. Rosey

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    All these years later Doug it's still one of THE all time classic Ferrari books ever published.
     
  20. Ferri

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    #373 (red version) is for sale in the Netherlands, asking € 1500
     
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  21. Rosey

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    Are red versions more/ less/ the same value as a standard blue cloth version do you guys think?
     
  22. Buchpilot

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    Red editions tend to be a little bit lower in price than the blue ones, although they are even more rare than the blue ones and their copy numbers are in accordance with the overall print run of the book. It's just that 32 blue copies were damaged in production and Palawan chose to reproduce them. Why they chose to make them red, I don't know.

    So, objectively, there is no reason why the red ones should be of less value, but very slightly they are if I look at recent offers and sales.
     
  23. jtremlett

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    I can't see any reason why they would be different. The content is identical and they are part of the same numbered sequence. Just that the red ones were printed later (and Palawan charged more). That said, I own a copy and I don't intend to sell it, so the value of my copy and others is immaterial.
     
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  24. Buchpilot

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    Anyway, the price asked here of 1,500 euros is a very good one. If I hadn't a copy already, I would buy it.
     
  25. bloomberg

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    #200 bloomberg, Nov 13, 2022
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    To be correct, these books were not printed later. A publisher will always print some more than needed for the edition, in case of damage etc. The unbound book blocks were given the numbers of the destroyed books, and were (contrary to the blue books) bound by hand and given a red buckram cover. Given the choice, I would always go for the red book, the binding quality is a little bit better.
     
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