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Ferrari in the Futur next years.

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Christian.Fr, Nov 8, 2005.

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  1. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    In many forums I ve constated that every body alk about Ferrari in pass time
    in present but never in the futur.
    I mean, about petrol stock. the price must to be increase in the 10 or 20 next years, restriction about nature, restriction for noise, several laws must to limit the production of many constructors and developement, realisaton
    of these cars like Enzo, Modena....
    The petrol stock is estimated until 2040, may be they find with new sites,
    China needs a big stock in futur 5 years, the petrole price makes a big
    modification in our habits.

    what do you expect?
     
  2. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ferrari will harness the Atom in years to come. The jump to Light Speed will be a Rush!....Road tests will measure in light years rather than Quarter miles.
    There will be no need for driver controls as a chip planted in your Brain will respond to all commands.

    All this will come to pass as we withdraw from Arab controled Dinosaur Fossil Fuel.
     
  3. Erich

    Erich Formula 3

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    No effect on Ferrari.

    If you have the coin to buy a new F430. Fuel costs are nothing.
    Even at $40/gallon, its nothing for a car that drives 3,000 miles a year.

    Erich
     
  4. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    but in Europ the price is not the same. using cars in an american style.
    think if the gallon is to 1 dollar, do you think that nothing will change in your life...
     
  5. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    My 430 gets the same or better mileage than most SUV's. People will ditch them before Ferraris. There are enough proven reserves to last hundreds of years. The problem now is twofold: oil was $10-15/barrel for a long time and companies didn't invest in increasing pproduction. 2. Most of the easy to get oil is in the hands of Opec and as long as the price was low, they had no competition. There is a huge reserve of oil in the Canadian oil sands which they are now beginning to develop since the price is high enough. Likewise, in Colorado we have a tremendous reserve of oil trapped in shale. The price is now high enough to make it profitable. It will take time to develop and the developers are ever mindful that the price of oil could collapse ruining their investments. Nevertheless, if it is true (as some say) that the Saudis cannot any longer keep the price low enough to discourage competition, we may soon have a plentiful, stable supply at prices that won't ruin economies. I'll get off my soapbox now. Thank you.

    Dave
     
  6. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Ferrari will change slowly to become more environmentally friendly. I'd suspect an alternative fuel source(or at least greater economy) at some point. Ferrari is leading edge and if you read their current owners manuals they refer to concerns about the environment. This would be a good question for some of the powers that be over in Maranello.
     
  7. Vlad328

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    I think becoming environmentally friendly is the last thing on Ferrari's mind, unless there are laws passed forcing this on the company in order to continue selling their cars.

     
  8. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    new markets like China will be most important than USA in next couple years.
    India will be the same. May be oil companies find new reserve like Canada in Alberta but this oil is different. today oil companies try to invest a large part of thier benefices in new developpement oil but the price must be inscrease for the customer.
    Today most SUV aren't very environmentally friendly, the image of those people change in the society, may be Ferrari will be the same.

    Did the price of these car discrease, today a 250GTO is 10 M$ today it will be the same...
     
  9. jaturon

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    For sure it will make affording ferraris more expensive but pretty sure ferraris will always be able to command demand and prices so like someone said early if you have the cash then no problem!
     
  10. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    but not for all the actual owners, possible that the most modest owners
    (sometimes they are most passionnated) can't following the increased price
    full, ferrari parts....
     
  11. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    nobody else interested by the futur of Ferrari
    explain your opinion.
     
  12. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    This article was written by Rupert Steiner
    and first appeared in The Business


    "Italian car giant Fiat has begun the process to float Ferrari, the world's most famous luxury car brand, on the Milan stock exchange.

    Two separate banking sources, one in Italy, the other in London, told The Business that Citibank will list Ferrari as early as the second half of next year in a placing that would value the business at around €2bn (£1.34bn, $2.34bn.).

    As well as making the eponymous road cars, Ferrari runs a successful Formula 1 racing team and owns a profitable licensing business.

    The American bank, which formed a relationship with Fiat over the recapitalisation of CNH, its farm and construction business, is beginning to prepare the due diligence, but Fiat has yet to publicly commit to a float.

    Much depends on timing, because of the poor state of the automotive market. But the same sources say Fiat wants to be able to go ahead with a flotation of Ferrari when conditions improve. Fiat's balance sheet is seen as strong as far as debt to equity is concerned. But after years of troubles, it is not cash generative.

    It is thought that Mediobanca, which was pursuing a strategy to become a diversified industrial group, bought a 34% stake in Ferrari, valuing it at the time at €2.3bn.

    Mediobanca's focus has now changed, which was signaled in the summer when it sold 5% of its holding to Mubadala Development, owned by the Abu Dhabi government,which again valued the business at 2002 levels.

    Fiat's Ferrari business no longer includes Maserati, which was moved to Alfa Romeo because the two groups have more obvious synergies.

    It is feasible once again that while Citibank conducts the float process a more attractive approach could be made for some of Ferrari's stock. But sources say the current thinking is to prepare the business for a float which would give Ferrari's army of fans around the world a chance to own a piece of the prancing horse.

    One banking source said this weekend: " Citibank is preparing the listing for next year." Another source said:"Timing is the key to this as Fiat will be nervous to commit until they are sure the conditions are right."

    Luca di Montezemolo, president of Fiat and chairman of Ferrari, declined to return calls. Jean Todt, general manager of Ferrari, told The Business this weekend: "This is pure speculation." A Fiat spokesman said: "We have not started any process." "
     

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