Ferrari Mondial criticism

allanb888 · May 16, 2006

moretti said:

actually the guy the "el presidente" bought it off couldn't get rid of it quick enough because he could never get it over 180kph no matter what he did to it

Some of us here remember him bleating that it was so slow he drove his wrx rather than the Mondy .... lovely looking car but slow as ...
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I feel that Ferrari Mondials need to be defended against misinformed people, because they are a really good car, which had to meet a difficult design brief of being a more practical Ferrari sports car (as apposed to a heavier grand tourer as are the usual Ferrari 2+2's).

I don't know whether the writer of the above comment to another post has armchair knowledge of Mondials, or whether he has owned or driven one.

I own a Mondial 3.2, plus an F40 and I have a 360 on the way, and I can tell you they are very good and under rated cars. The problem is that the original Mondial 8 had 215 hp, and this gave the car a reputation as being not as fast as other Ferrari's, but still fast compared to most cars. The Mondial 3 litre quatravalve had 240 hp, the Mondial 3.2 270 hp and the Mondial t had 300 hp. So you can see by the time engine power was increased by 40%, you are talking about a completely different car. The car handles and brakes as well as any Ferrari. It is roomy and comfortable, and it enables me to let the whole family with children in the back, experience a ferrari. The previous owner of my car used it day to day in Sydney, and even used to drive it interstate with children strapped in the back.

And because they are under rated, they are a real bargain, especially the Mondial 3.2, which does not cost much more than a Mondial 8, but has a substantial jump in performance and looks more modern with colour coded bumpers instead of old black rubber. The Mondial t costs a lot more. So they are a great entry level Ferrari, and haven't dropped in value the 4 years I have owned mine (since the price has probably bottomed). And I still find the car draws a lot of attention, since I often find a group of people standing around looking at the car when it is left in the street.

And by the way, I had my Mondial 3.2 well over 180 kph and still accelerating hard at Phillip Island race track main straight, when I attended club track days.

I will post some photos of my car, if someone can tell me how to attach photos to posts.

NYCFERRARIS · May 16, 2006

I think in many design ways the mondial is one of enzo's finest..everytime I approach my mondial I marvel what it is...a real 4-seat mid-engine useable sports car -- full cabriolet---and it has a full trunk and spare in front..and looks great too...what a design -- and the engine is also longitude..not sideways and you can actually work in that engine bay... it is a design marvel in many ways.. a great touring GT and it mid engine makes nice power ( I have a T) and great handling.

moretti · May 16, 2006

allanb888 said:

I feel that Ferrari Mondials need to be defended against misinformed people, because they are a really good car, which had to meet a difficult design brief of being a more practical Ferrari sports car (as apposed to a heavier grand tourer as are the usual Ferrari 2+2's).

I don't know whether the writer of the above comment to another post has armchair knowledge of Mondials, or whether he has owned or driven one.

I own a Mondial 3.2, plus an F40 and I have a 360 on the way, and I can tell you they are very good and under rated cars. The problem is that the original Mondial 8 had 215 hp, and this gave the car a reputation as being not as fast as other Ferrari's, but still fast compared to most cars. The Mondial 3 litre quatravalve had 240 hp, the Mondial 3.2 270 hp and the Mondial t had 300 hp. So you can see by the time engine power was increased by 40%, you are talking about a completely different car. The car handles and brakes as well as any Ferrari. It is roomy and comfortable, and it enables me to let the whole family with children in the back, experience a ferrari. The previous owner of my car used it day to day in Sydney, and even used to drive it interstate with children strapped in the back.

And because they are under rated, they are a real bargain, especially the Mondial 3.2, which does not cost much more than a Mondial 8, but has a substantial jump in performance and looks more modern with colour coded bumpers instead of old black rubber. The Mondial t costs a lot more. So they are a great entry level Ferrari, and haven't dropped in value the 4 years I have owned mine (since the price has probably bottomed). And I still find the car draws a lot of attention, since I often find a group of people standing around looking at the car when it is left in the street.

And by the way, I had my Mondial 3.2 well over 180 kph and still accelerating hard at Phillip Island race track main straight, when I attended club track days.

I will post some photos of my car, if someone can tell me how to attach photos to posts.
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don't get your knickers in a twist mate, the comments were made by the owner of THAT Mondial and there are several others on this section of Fchat that know of the troubles he had with the car.

I thought it was the best looking Mondial I have seen but that does not change the facts that he had THAT car on the dyno heaps of times trying to see what problem the car had that HE couldn't get it over 180.

Personally a Ferrari is a Ferrari to me so not looking down on Mondials at all, I could cars less which Ferrari people drive so long as it is a Ferrari but the guy who owned THAT Mondial was so unhappy with it that he has not bought another one

ferrarifixer · May 16, 2006

Australian spec Mondial 3.2 have the US/Swiss spec engine, with 255 BHP.

They all do 140mph (220km/h) or more, even the Mondial 8.

The longer wheel base and wider track of a Mondial makes them a really nice handling car, the "problem" with them is the driving position... you sit so far forward but the door is so long that the leverage and angle makes access awkward (or at least a bit weird).

And when you drive one, you look like a Ute driver (or a Zonda!!)

Regarding the <180 car.... theres an inlet ducting that can come loose and/or restrict itself.... That would be my first place to look.

ants2au · May 16, 2006

Too late, the car was sold around 3 years ago
"my god, has it been that long......"

ferrarifixer said:

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Regarding the <180 car.... theres an inlet ducting that can come loose and/or restrict itself.... That would be my first place to look.
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goober · May 16, 2006

allanb888 said:

I feel that Ferrari Mondials need to be defended against misinformed people, because they are a really good car, which had to meet a difficult design brief of being a more practical Ferrari sports car (as apposed to a heavier grand tourer as are the usual Ferrari 2+2's).

I don't know whether the writer of the above comment to another post has armchair knowledge of Mondials, or whether he has owned or driven one.

I own a Mondial 3.2, plus an F40 and I have a 360 on the way, and I can tell you they are very good and under rated cars. The problem is that the original Mondial 8 had 215 hp, and this gave the car a reputation as being not as fast as other Ferrari's, but still fast compared to most cars. The Mondial 3 litre quatravalve had 240 hp, the Mondial 3.2 270 hp and the Mondial t had 300 hp. So you can see by the time engine power was increased by 40%, you are talking about a completely different car. The car handles and brakes as well as any Ferrari. It is roomy and comfortable, and it enables me to let the whole family with children in the back, experience a ferrari. The previous owner of my car used it day to day in Sydney, and even used to drive it interstate with children strapped in the back.

And because they are under rated, they are a real bargain, especially the Mondial 3.2, which does not cost much more than a Mondial 8, but has a substantial jump in performance and looks more modern with colour coded bumpers instead of old black rubber. The Mondial t costs a lot more. So they are a great entry level Ferrari, and haven't dropped in value the 4 years I have owned mine (since the price has probably bottomed). And I still find the car draws a lot of attention, since I often find a group of people standing around looking at the car when it is left in the street.

And by the way, I had my Mondial 3.2 well over 180 kph and still accelerating hard at Phillip Island race track main straight, when I attended club track days.

I will post some photos of my car, if someone can tell me how to attach photos to posts.
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the 400i is still in the same league, in Australia the "norm" with mondials is that they are hairdresser cars, (mainly those that had salons bought one) and its a stigma that carries thru to today.

Drug dealers were not mondial lovers they prefer the 400i cos u can fit at least one body in the trunk, (thats why they have fallen in love with the Chrysler 300C) ((2 bodies minimum))

and general enthusiasts were never a great lover of mondials like the GT4

F40LMGTC · May 16, 2006

allanb888 said:

I feel that Ferrari Mondials need to be defended against misinformed people, because they are a really good car, which had to meet a difficult design brief of being a more practical Ferrari sports car (as apposed to a heavier grand tourer as are the usual Ferrari 2+2's).

I don't know whether the writer of the above comment to another post has armchair knowledge of Mondials, or whether he has owned or driven one.

I own a Mondial 3.2, plus an F40 and I have a 360 on the way, and I can tell you they are very good and under rated cars. The problem is that the original Mondial 8 had 215 hp, and this gave the car a reputation as being not as fast as other Ferrari's, but still fast compared to most cars. The Mondial 3 litre quatravalve had 240 hp, the Mondial 3.2 270 hp and the Mondial t had 300 hp. So you can see by the time engine power was increased by 40%, you are talking about a completely different car. The car handles and brakes as well as any Ferrari. It is roomy and comfortable, and it enables me to let the whole family with children in the back, experience a ferrari. The previous owner of my car used it day to day in Sydney, and even used to drive it interstate with children strapped in the back.

And because they are under rated, they are a real bargain, especially the Mondial 3.2, which does not cost much more than a Mondial 8, but has a substantial jump in performance and looks more modern with colour coded bumpers instead of old black rubber. The Mondial t costs a lot more. So they are a great entry level Ferrari, and haven't dropped in value the 4 years I have owned mine (since the price has probably bottomed). And I still find the car draws a lot of attention, since I often find a group of people standing around looking at the car when it is left in the street.

And by the way, I had my Mondial 3.2 well over 180 kph and still accelerating hard at Phillip Island race track main straight, when I attended club track days.

I will post some photos of my car, if someone can tell me how to attach photos to posts.
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There's just TOO many F40's owners around here

SPEEDCORE · May 16, 2006

goober said:

Drug dealers were not mondial lovers they prefer the 400i cos u can fit at least one body in the trunk, (thats why they have fallen in love with the Chrysler 300C) ((2 bodies minimum))
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You seem to know alot about the Drug Dealer scene...

I thought drug dealer cars are chosen based on fitting oversized chrome rims.

scud · May 16, 2006

moretti said:

don't get your knickers in a twist mate, the comments were made by the owner of THAT Mondial and there are several others on this section of Fchat that know of the troubles he had with the car.

I thought it was the best looking Mondial I have seen but that does not change the facts that he had THAT car on the dyno heaps of times trying to see what problem the car had that HE couldn't get it over 180.

Personally a Ferrari is a Ferrari to me so not looking down on Mondials at all, I could cars less which Ferrari people drive so long as it is a Ferrari but the guy who owned THAT Mondial was so unhappy with it that he has not bought another one
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john , will i see you at QR tomorrow ? i'll have the 430 but will be doing the fast laps in the RENSC . i'll take you round the track if you like.

moretti · May 17, 2006

scud said:

john , will i see you at QR tomorrow ? i'll have the 430 but will be doing the fast laps in the RENSC . i'll take you round the track if you like.
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yeah I'm taking the QV so I'll wave as you go past

remember, the middle finger means you're only allowed to pass me ONCE

thanks for the 430 offer but I need all the laps in the QV I can get

jmillard308 · May 17, 2006

moretti said:

thanks for the 430 offer but I need all the laps in the QV I can get
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what tyres are you running?

moretti · May 17, 2006

jmillard308 said:

what tyres are you running?
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not Hoosiers !!!

standard Michelin rubbish (TRX) waiting to get another set of wheels (328 pre-88) to fit the Hoosiers, bills are mounting up from the repairs so will have to wait until the bank balance starts to show black before venturing onto eBay

grantj · May 17, 2006

ferrarifixer said:

Australian spec Mondial 3.2 have the US/Swiss spec engine, with 255 BHP.

They all do 140mph (220km/h) or more, even the Mondial 8.

The longer wheel base and wider track of a Mondial makes them a really nice handling car, the "problem" with them is the driving position... you sit so far forward but the door is so long that the leverage and angle makes access awkward (or at least a bit weird).

And when you drive one, you look like a Ute driver (or a Zonda!!)

Regarding the <180 car.... theres an inlet ducting that can come loose and/or restrict itself.... That would be my first place to look.
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Personally, I didn't mind the forward position (room for the dog and a bale of hay in the back!!). My first Ferrai was a Mondial 8. Bit of dog, reliability wise, bit underpowered compared to Pcars of the day @ 250HP, but great handling, airy cabin, etc. Fastest I could get was 211kmh (7500 rpm), which is plenty fast enough!! I'd have another one without question, preferably a "T", but perhaps a 3.2 QV which could be modified to overcome its performance shortcomings without taking out a mortgage would do!!

Aircon · May 17, 2006

jmillard308 said:

what tyres are you running?
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getting nervous? moretti's gonna kick your butt

moretti · May 17, 2006

Aircon said:

getting nervous? moretti's gonna kick your butt
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and then I might go out on the track and do the same

slap slap, wake up JM, you're dreaming

Giovanni can't drive for peanuts

scud · May 17, 2006

moretti said:

yeah I'm taking the QV so I'll wave as you go past

remember, the middle finger means you're only allowed to pass me ONCE

thanks for the 430 offer but I need all the laps in the QV I can get
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i mean the cup car , the pax seat will be in , i know how much you love them

moretti · May 17, 2006

scud said:

i mean the cup car , the pax seat will be in , i know how much you love them
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thanks, that would be fun in the cup car

goober · May 17, 2006

SPEEDCORE said:

You seem to know alot about the Drug Dealer scene...

I thought drug dealer cars are chosen based on fitting oversized chrome rims.
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its called being versatile and knowing what people in society do, hence my knowledge on the pharmacy is quite good

eurospec · May 17, 2006

F40LMGTC said:

There's just TOO many F40's owners around here
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thats true

goober · May 17, 2006

F40LMGTC said:

There's just TOO many F40's owners around here
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yes bit like arseholes

jmillard308 · May 17, 2006

moretti said:

not Hoosiers !!!

standard Michelin rubbish (TRX) waiting to get another set of wheels (328 pre-88) to fit the Hoosiers, bills are mounting up from the repairs so will have to wait until the bank balance starts to show black before venturing onto eBay
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You are aware that 328 front wheels are not a straight bolt-on to a 308?
Can be fixed but a bit of ginning around.

jmillard308 · May 17, 2006

Aircon said:

getting nervous? moretti's gonna kick your butt
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Maybe

jmillard308 · May 17, 2006

moretti said:

Giovanni can't drive for peanuts
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Unfortunate, but true

mhh · May 17, 2006

So what's the bottom line on the Mondial? Is it a good thing or not?

(My grandma is looking for a 4 seater and wants to know).

ferrarifixer · May 17, 2006

mhh said:

So what's the bottom line on the Mondial? Is it a good thing or not?

(My grandma is looking for a 4 seater and wants to know).
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