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FERRARI removal on f355

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  1. sdbmwfxr

    sdbmwfxr Karting

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    Hey Folks,

    Attempting to not re-invent the wheel here. Already ran a search with no great luck.

    I'm having my 355 detailed and I'd really like to get the Ferrari script of the rear deck lid. Access is terrible as the grills are riveted in place. I contemplated cutting the grills to access the push locks on the posts but I'd like to avoid that for obvious reasons.

    Anyone done this before without damage to the emblem or the paint?

    Thanks
     
  2. EDVTEC

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    In the 348, there are two rubber clips below the deck lid. Remove them and the logo will be taken out easily. For the F355, please, check the picture in: http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partTable.asp?M=1&Mo=692&A=2&B=41125&S=
     
  3. Ricambi America

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    There is a steel "speed nut" that must be removed. First, pull the little rubber plugs from the engine hatch cover, then use a needle nose pliers or something similar to remove the speed nuts.
     
  4. sdbmwfxr

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    The main problem is access. the mesh grill really limits your ability to get to those speed nuts and if you try to pull back on them the design is such that it makes for a chinese finger puzzle experience.
     
  5. Dave rocks

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    I was in the same boat last year......I hate rivets for this reason..

    I never found a solution, I just left the name plate on and worked around it
     
  6. sdbmwfxr

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    If I get the old one off, I'm going to use a small die to thread the posts so I can take them off in the future.

    Yeah, rivets have their place, this is not one of them
     
  7. sdbmwfxr

    sdbmwfxr Karting

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    Well, if no one has a viable solution, I'm just going to wing it and I'll post my experience here to help someone in the future
     
  8. lotusk

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    I'm all ears...
     
  9. sdbmwfxr

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    OK,

    So for me, this turned out to be less than an ordeal that I thought it would be. Small pick tool, a screwdriver, a magnet, and a helper is pretty much all you need.

    With the deck lid open, first take a screwdriver or punch and push on the post for the emblem. Things may vary from car to car, but the post pushed up rather easy despite the fastener being on. Once it has lifted a bit, use the pick/hook tool to spread the tongs of the fastener. The adhesive wasn't super strong, but again, that may vary.

    Once you get it off, use the magnet to drag the fasteners out from underneath across the mesh grill.
     
  10. Mike Morrissey

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    Following sdbmwfxr’s excellent advice, a pick tool worked great in removing the emblem speed clips, along with a magnet and fishing to extract them. I ended up using a 6-32 die to cut threads into the emblem posts and black oxide nuts for ease of future removal. I was hesitant to cut the mesh, so that a hex driver could be used, but after deliberating much with myself and checking to make sure no sign of it would be visible from the outside, I went ahead with my nervous chore. The material was surprisingly easy to cut and I used flat paint with a brush to finish the edges.

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  11. Mike Morrissey

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    As a follow up, a photo of the threaded post and to note; I’ve added 0.2cm (.08in) one sided adhesive foam to prevent the metal emblem from touching the paint when installed. The foam compresses nicely when the fasteners are tightened. I decided against the adhesive tape that is supplied with the emblem, as removal can cause bending and possible paint damage, as the emblem material is quite soft.
     
  12. Mike Morrissey

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  13. Ferrarium

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    I was worried when threading that the studs would twist off, good to know thanks!
     
  14. Mike Morrissey

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    Yes, my concern also. I went slow and backed out the die many times before reaching bottom to remove material shavings.
     
  15. Mike Morrissey

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    New vs Original “Mark” emblem. My reason for wanting to remove my emblem was a slightly bent “F”, probably from bonnet removal during past engine outs. The added plus was to clean and polish the finish underneath. I was surprised to find the differences in letter script between the two. The new version seems more true to the actual Ferrari logo, although the differences can reveal paint marks that are now uncovered due to letter sizing and spacing. Side note, just a warning if cutting threads to the posts, use extra support on the letter “I” to prevent bending.

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  16. Mike Morrissey

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    #16 Mike Morrissey, Dec 15, 2019
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    The new version is pictured above the original, from 1998.
    Note the upper vs lower case “ i “, the thinner “ F “, the more true to form “ r “ and more open letter “ e “ and “ a “. I’m not sure which looks better on the car, but with the modifications, much easier to change out. My reason for purchasing the new, prior to this task, was the possibility of damage to the emblem, as due to my ever advancing age I find that sometimes I break more things than I fix.:)
     
  17. Ferrarium

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    It's easy to catch a wash cloth on them when cleaning and bending letters too. What part number did you order?

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  18. Ricambi America

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    I'm pretty sure he got 61025000. Just a guess...
     
  19. Mike Morrissey

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    Yes to confirm, the emblem “Mark” part was 61025000 from Ricambi America, recommended for F355.
     
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