Ferrari, Sergio and the newest Ferrari can quit F1 statements

Oh just go already. You can’t even beat a drinks company.

If you’re going to constantly disappoint your fans for the next 10 years just leave.

In case you haven’t looked, the last world title you won was in 2008.

Just sayin’

 

Le Mans anyone ?

Wouldn't that be nice to return to sports car racing ?

 

I like the way you think Bob

If you can't beat them .... LEAVE !!

 

2007

 

We saw this coming. Big negotiations are no surprise.

 

EVEN WORSE!

 

Standard bluster. 'Give us what we want or we will leave.'

At the end of the day, a deal will get done.

 

Not big news really. Mercedes and Renault also showed some discontentment about Liberty´s new way of life. Quite normal: at this moment everybody is trying to get a better position in the new era.

Unless Liberty is more stupid or crazy than I think, I suppose everybody will get their share of the pie and the show will resume as usual.

 

The usual posturing by Ferrari. Liberty would be insane to let Ferrari leave. Again, nothing new here.

 

They can't afford to let Ferrari leave.

On the whole I agree with the sweaterman but worried about his comments regarding it would be great for P/L for their investors....shows where his head is at!

 

Whatever...but if you stay, than at least beat the crap out of those germans....

 

Yes, Marchionne has added his own twist to a familiar story. Still, they're not going anywhere.

 

A rival series where all the owners own the series should be set up easily enough. Cut deal with Amazon for viewing. My guess is Liberty will be hurting big time. Many fans are outraged with the new proposed engine regs. My guess is it'll be the easiest rivalry set up taking an enormous amount of fans with them in one swoop. Whoops. Red Bull will be on board, which means STR. Haas, Sauber. **** get a few GP2 teams involved (easily done combining Ferrari and Red Bull spending power) and suddenly they'll have their 10 team grid.

Liberty should be very worried.

 

First a 4-wheel drive, then soon an SUV with a prancing horse ... if Ferrari leaves F1 it would be just like any other sports car marque. I don't blame them for crying foul with Nascar-like restrictions which will also open the flood gates for new 'garagistes'. Audi is leaving Le Mans to focus on Formula E; Porsche launching a Tesla-beater (which I'm on a waitlist!). The world for motor cars is changing rapidly now and translating into the racing world which is mostly on the decline in audience as Millenials are just not into this form of entertainment/hobby despite all the success of Vin Diesel with Fast and Furious!

 

Now that's the man we need. put Vin Diesel in the cockpit and will beat the crap out of those mercs!!

 

That's a bit optimistic. Quoted as much slower atm....but will Tesla still be around in 2 years? That's the more important question.

 

It’s hard to tell from the comments of Ferrari and renault... but are they pissed about the proposed change or any change? Reading between the lines it almost seems like they want to keep what they have now due to the investment and things starting equalize a little bit.

I have yet to hear what Ferrari really wants to have for a new PU in 2021...and I haven’t heard what Renault wants either. I hope it’s something at least approaching what the fans want and what makes sense for the series. What they’re proposing now is the exact opposite... not at all what fans want, not good for F1, not good for smaller teams, not good for insertion of new teams and engine suppliers.

 

Putting a cap on team budgets ? Interesting, given the Italian lean on accountancy ! The country has been bankrupt for the last 100 years, and they're still going strong. I agree with the suggestion made about say, LeMans, and international sportscar racing. At least that is something, as fans and owners, we can Identify with, and the cars do look vaguely familiar.......and on tracks unavailable for F1 Can't believe anyone would buy a car based on who wins F1......maybe I'm wrong ?....but I wouldn't and don't.

 

http://www.motortrend.com/news/ferrari-threaten/

This article suggests Liberty is balking at Ferrari’s guaranteed bonus.

Look we’ve seen these comments from Ferrari before. It’s not new. However, with new owners for F1, Ferrari now a public company, and the comments from the sweater - maybe it really is different this time......

 

Plenty of die hard fans are loosing interest, including me in F1 the way it is going.

 

Agreed.

While Ferrari threatening to quit is nothing new and has been used in the past as a bargaining chip with FoM... this is the first time I see sweater man admit that F1 is not in the interests of Ferrari as a public company. This is opposite of what they claimed at flotation when they chose 'RACE' as their ticker symbol.

The writing is on the wall I think. This statement seems like a shot across the bows to me in order to set the future direction of Ferrari. By bringing shareholder return into the debate, sweater man now creates a path for Ferrari to exit F1 under the justification of greater profits.

Sweater man might be bluffing again of course but shareholders are going to believe him and start asking why Ferrari is still in F1.