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Ferrari Shield on Dinos?

Discussion in '206/246' started by MRONY, Apr 25, 2007.

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  1. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

    Dec 31, 2003
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    Is it true that the later 308 GT/GT4 line was also badged as a Dino, and in fact, the later 308 (Magnum car) line was also supposed to be a Dino, and Ferrari finally folded the tent and called them "Ferrari" to satisfy the buyers?
     
  2. vintageracer27

    vintageracer27 Karting

    Dec 9, 2004
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    It is always great fun that almost 40 years later we are still arguing over whether a Dino 206/246 is a Ferrari. In one camp, we have those who are of the opinsion that the car is a Dino. This position is supported by the fact that the Dino was intended as a separate marque specifically never sanctioned to have exterior Ferrari badges. Logical and to the point, this view is appealing because a Dino is, after all, more rare than a Ferrari. In the other camp, we have those who are of the opinion that the car is a Ferrari, having been manufactured by Ferrari, and that the separate Dino marque never materialized. This view is supported by the fact that during the 246 production run, the Ferrari factory itself changed the official brochures advertising the car, abandoning the earlier "almost a Ferrari" language in favor of promoting the brilliance of "the smaller Ferrari." It is also worth noting that Cavallino Rampante badges were period dealer add-on items at the time, either an attempt at clarification or adding to the confusion, depending on your point of view. At least we can all agree that the car is brilliant!
     
  3. Crawler

    Crawler F1 Veteran

    Jul 2, 2006
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    I've never seen anyone look askance at a 360 wearing Scuderia shields, yet the 360 is a direct descendant of the Dino through the 246> 308> 328> 348> 355 lineage. It could be argued that the Dino is closer to the racing ancestry than any of the later cars...
     
  4. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

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    I don't think there's any "bloodlines" or "ancestory" here to debate. At the end of the day, these things are bags of bolts. All this pissing and moaning about "heritage" is b.s. They're cars for goodness sake.

    Racing Ferraris had the horseys on 'em. The others didn't. Most of us won't fart in our cars, much less race 'em.

    But, if I'm going to shell out 200 large for a car, I want it to be apparent, from every angle, that it is indeed a horsey car. Right?
     
  5. dinogts

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    I'd call that "snickering." Besides, they're pretty much all Fiats anyway!

    Mark
     
  6. Julio Batista

    Julio Batista Formula 3

    Dec 22, 2005
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    Whatever. And yes, there's some Fiat DNA there also. Nothing to be ashamed about! Dino Ferrari himself only had 50% of his DNA coming from Enzo.
     
  7. Nickt

    Nickt Formula 3

    Feb 24, 2006
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    The early gt4s had no ferrari badging at all (apart from the cam covers) I believe the mk2s were badged to boost sales. My 78 GT4 has both Dino and Ferrari

    I get this at car shows all the time, oh its just a Fiat, funny though, i can't find one reference to fiat on the car anyway! unless you spell fiat f-e-r-r-a-r-i and there's lots of that.
    I was looking to put the shields on mine, but cant make up my mind if i should... To test i bought some real cheap ones and it looked awful, but that might be because they were cheap ones.
    I also have the script at home, can't bring myself to drill the two holes to put it on though.
     
  8. Rory J

    Rory J Formula 3

    May 30, 2006
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    Wrong. The worst part of driving a Ferrari (or a Dino, as the case may be) is the image that goes along with them. It's extremely unimportant to me that people know what type of car I own. I enjoy it for what it means to me, not other people.
     
  9. Italian Lover

    Italian Lover Formula Junior

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    Ditto. I am "embarassed" to tell when people ask me how many cars I own, ...ie. it does not matter to me how others perceive me. Jimmy
     
  10. Husker

    Husker F1 World Champ

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    So would I be guessing correctly that neither of you have prominent horsey badges glued to your fenders? ;)
     
  11. ajmarton

    ajmarton Formula Junior

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    #36 ajmarton, Apr 28, 2007
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    Well, I think it is time for me to chime in as I have Enzo's bastard child - the Fiat Dino 2L Spyder. When I started taking the Dino to shows, I got a lot of crap from Ferrari owners for having the prancing horse on the rear. But the car came that way thanks to the PO and I was not going to spend money to plug up the holes and paint just to be correct. Of course, after years of ownership I have developed a liking to the prancing horse on the back side and am no longer self conscious of having it there. So I think you should do whatever you feel comfortable doing with the car and forget about what others think.
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  12. Italian Lover

    Italian Lover Formula Junior

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    Concurr. Very pragmatic. Jimmy
     
  13. dinogts

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    In any event, I like to think of the 246 as the car that saved Ferrari in the early 70s, kind of like the 2002 is the car that saved BMW.

    Mark
     
  14. dinogts

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    I guess you haven't looked at a 246 engine. It has FIAT stamped in big letters on it.

    Anyway, my reference to them being all Fiats was that in 1969 Fiat made its first major purchase of Ferrari stock, buying at that time what was first reported to be 40% of the Ferrari stock (later reported to be a 50-50 ownership split), and then later Fiat became a full majority owner.

    Mark
     
  15. Crawler

    Crawler F1 Veteran

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    Gorgeous car! I think that subtle little horse on the back looks just fine.
     
  16. MRONY

    MRONY Formula Junior

    Mar 17, 2007
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    What is "correct" for a '74 US care -- "Campagnolo" logos on the wheels or yellow Dinos?

    As to all the logo debate, I noticed several things. First, every piece of paperwork that came with this car says Ferrari on it. The car's import papers and first sale documents all say Ferrari, and so does the first (Nevada) registration. The door plate says Ferrari, and Ferrari conceived it and built it.

    The reason I love this car (which finally got delivered today) is the same reason Enzo didn't badge it -- the smaller engine that makes it an absolute blast to drive without leaving a greasy trail of testosterone behind you. To say that the Dino isn't a Ferrari seems kind of wierd to me.

    Now having said that, all the bozos I have known who had to run out and get the latest edition from Modena, no matter the price, and the louder the better, have stigmatized Ferraris and made them the symbol of the middle-age crisis. Then they get six tickets and wind up driving their 500 hp race cars at 55MPH in the left lane while yelling into their cell phones. So, not having the thing all badged up is kind of a good thing.

    On the other hand, I do kind of love the way the small chrome horse looks on the front grille.
     

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