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Ferrari Speciale vs Pista - feeling/performance/grip?!

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  1. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Who wouldn't? Too bad only one of the three offers that...
     
  2. dmark1

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    Nope, cause to me at least its ugly as sin.
     
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  3. tekaefixe

    tekaefixe Formula Junior

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    Ahahah
     
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  4. Eilig

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    Not.
     
  5. Coincid

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    Usability is encompassed in comfort. Your preferences are a perfect description of an Aston Martin, Bentley, and the new McLaren GT. Your first 3 requirements are certainly not well served by a Performante.The CS and Scud miss on all 4.
     
  6. 95spiderman

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    looks, sound, performance, comfort, reliability i that order for me
     
  7. dustman

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    LOL there are plenty of cars that check it.
     
  8. dmark1

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    #158 dmark1, Jul 17, 2019
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    Ok that’s just asinine. The CS , Perf are not fast? They aren’t comfortable? They can’t handle stop and go traffic? They arent beautiful?

    Did you even read my post ?

    I own both of them and drive them daily along with my 488 Spyder, 512 TR and until recently my Speciale , do you own any of them besides the Perf?

    Read what i said. Your comprehension is suspect. BTW I’ve never owned nor ever will own the cars you mentioned.
     
  9. Coincid

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    Perf is fast but not comfortable or useable. CS is not comfortable, useable and by today’s standards , not fast.

    I will make a correction and acknowledge that these cars do have good looks.
     
  10. C50

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    I think I enjoyed that more than I should have
     
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  11. dmark1

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    I find the performante to be very comfortable.

    The CS I have has luggage and is a great town cruiser. Both are easy to drive, tolerate town traffix well (especislly the Perf In strada)
     
  12. Coincid

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    I misunderstood your concept of comfortable and useable. I am in complete agreement with you. I was confused by your comment about the Performante.
     
  13. dmark1

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    Performante is the best Lamborghini ever built.
     
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  14. veilstylez

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    Yup im in the minority now
    All future cars with all turbos, speed, power, refinement, but no sound and rawness....nothing left for me(which honestly really sucks for me)
     
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  15. Eilig

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    You are not alone, there are many of us who feel same.
     
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  16. dustman

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    Agree.

    The rest here can simply be happy with Tesla roadsters.

    :)
     
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  17. LVP488

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    Honestly, claiming that the new cars are too refined and that cars from a few years ago were the epitome of rawness sounds like a joke to me.
    A Speciale, with its DCT and all its electronics, is as far from raw as possible - the fact that its less evolved than a Pista does not change anything in that. Less competent is not synonymous with rawer for me.
    If you want something raw, try a Caterham or an Ariel.
     
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  18. Eilig

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    THIS is raw, just sayin

     
  19. 458-Italia

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    LVP488 is fuming :p
     
  20. dmark1

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    Well as someone who owned and put 10,000 miles on my Speciale in 4 years, and who has driven the Pista on the track I can tell you there is NO DAMN DIFFERENCE in the rawness of the two cars. The only difference is the Speciale revs 1000 rpm higher (whopeee!) and the Pista kicks the ever loving **** out of it in ever other measure.

    So spare me the "raw" BS . You are talking to someone with first person experience with both.
     
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  21. 95spiderman

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    what is your opinion on sound difference? throttle response?
    thanks
     
  22. 458-Italia

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    Throttle response good but sound is not pleasant
     
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    Having personal driving experience is the fundamental prerequisite in having the credibility in offering an opinion. However, it is nonetheless still a subjective, personal account of your perception. One man's " raw" is anothers "refined". You may find the Pista as compelling and engaging as a Speciale, yet clearly there are others who disagree. Love your passion and blunt demeaner but ultimately all that matters is the emotion and joy endgendered by the car YOU drive. The opinion of others should be irrelevant.
     
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  25. dmark1

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    Truer words were never spoken :)
     
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