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Ferrari specialist in MN?

Discussion in 'North Midwest - USA (ND, SD, MN, IA, WI, IL)' started by petiks, Aug 26, 2009.

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  1. petiks

    petiks Rookie

    Aug 22, 2009
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    Hi! I went to Wheels of Italy and I've always been a Ferrari fan. With prices of used Ferraris going down, owning one is not that impossible. :) But, I have always been scared of owning one because of maintenance costs. For Ferrari owners out there, is it really that bad? Also, are there Ferrari specialists here in the twin cities? When I mean specialists, I mean people who's passionate about Ferraris and have a garage tucked in somewhere only a few knew about? (hope that made sense?)

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. Meister

    Meister F1 Veteran
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    The answer is yes.

    You will be surprised at the number of high quality cars that exist in the TC (MN) area.

    What it takes to get into that "circle" is a combination of your williness to pay to play and your acceptance into the fold.

    I tried to be as cryptic as I could ;)
     
  3. petiks

    petiks Rookie

    Aug 22, 2009
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    ha! :) care to share where the specialists hide out? (i live around bloomington)
     
  4. pyroguy

    pyroguy Formula Junior
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    Well first you need a car. Rule 1 - hobby cars are expensive period. They rarely generate any income (profit on sale).

    A number of owners including myself use Tim Keseluk (in Bloomington). Morries Maserati also services Ferrari. If you are looking at a late model car that has OBD they may be your only choice if you have specific OBD issues as they have an SD3 for diagnosis. I believe there are a few other mechanics. There was another shop at WOI with a booth but I can't remember the name right now. I believe they are in the Plymouth area. Otherwise the nearest Ferrari dealer is Chicago.

    If you want to keep your costs down, probably stick with a 308/328. Also don't buy a fixer upper thinking that will save you money, it won't!
     
  5. petiks

    petiks Rookie

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    #5 petiks, Aug 27, 2009
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    thanks pyroguy!

    i'll keep that in mind. definitely making sure i cover all bases for my research. service and maintenance is one of them. but, thanks for your input. need i mention my other interest is watches.....great! :)
     
  6. lostbowl

    lostbowl Formula 3

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    It's really quite simple------------- anyone can buy a F-car but maintaining it takes a heap of coins. Simply put,as in racing, it's easy to become a millionare in this business if you start out as a billionaire!! Yuk Yuk Yukk !! not so lost anymore,
     
  7. petiks

    petiks Rookie

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    thanks lostbowl! are there articles or forums out the that detail maintenance costs for ferrari models?
     
  8. 2NA

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    It has been discussed here ad nauseum. There are many variables even among similar cars.

    Something to keep in mind is that Ferraris are cars, like all others and require similar maintenance. The parts are typically more expensive and some of the service is more complex (some routine service is "engine out") but they are mostly similar to what you already drive.

    It's not magic.
     
  9. petiks

    petiks Rookie

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    thanks tim! i've tried to check the posts ever now and then and i've learned alot from the past few weeks... :)
     
  10. lostbowl

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    Petiks,
    I neglected to mention that if you find a decent one and get it on the road you will need someone to slap you back into reality. They are so much fun to drive. If you ,like myself , have left the workforce and have limited income then I suggest a late model 308. They are considered dogs ,as far as performance, (although it will hit 145MPH without a huge effort)
    but the engine management system is pretty much mechanical and therefore can be sorted by any decent mechanic. Another word of caution--------learn to change the fluids by yourself, stay away from quick change oil stops. Hope you find one. lostbowl
     
  11. lostbowl

    lostbowl Formula 3

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    Petiks,
    Most important-------------- if you have issues with an F-car this is the right place to be! Listen closely to Verrell, Dave Helms, Fastradio,Rifledriver and Birdman! (I'm sure I missed some unintentionally) You will have to decide who has an opinion and who has an answer. I have been wrenching most of my life ,as a hobbiest, mostly on English iron and our 308 is the first F-car (most likely not the last) and the mystique of working on Fcars was a fear I had to overcome with the advice of the afore mentioned guys. When you read their posts you will feel the knowledge and passion.
    just do it, lostbowl
     
  12. Ferrari55whoa

    Ferrari55whoa F1 Rookie
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    Guys, I've since moved away from the midwest but when I did there was a ferrari tech in the TC area....Jeff Flynn.....does he still live and wrench on ferrari's in or around the twin cities? Any other suggestion on someone for a pre-purchase inspection?
     
  13. jmlinmn

    jmlinmn Formula Junior

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    Depending on what you buy, you're going to be bringing it to Maserati of Minneapolis or you're going to truck the thing to Lake Forest Sports Cars in Lake Bluff, IL.
     
  14. Ferrari55whoa

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    Guys, the car I'm thinking about is In-op. I need Jeff Flynn (if he still lives in the Minneapolis area) or another reccomendation of an independent that can drive to the vehicle. Thanks --
     
  15. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    PM sent
     
  16. petiks

    petiks Rookie

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    #16 petiks, Nov 8, 2009
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    thanks for all your responses! :)

    i noticed alot of you recommend the 308/328...any feedback on maintenance of the 355s? especially the ones with paddle shifters?
     
  17. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
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    I'm not a big fan of paddle shifters ("flappy paddles") and the early F1 in the 355 is a bit jerky in traffic (where you will be most of the time). More expensive to buy and fix.

    The 355 is a fabulous car with a superb "Ferrari Sound" but quite a bit more expensive to fix than the 308/328. Timing belts, tensioners and a few other maintenance items require "engine out". Some of the earlier cars had valve guide issues and the headers are prone to fail. The rubbery coating on interior trim parts becomes sticky after a few years. These problems can and may have already been fixed on a car you purchase but you need to do "due diligence" to find out "if" and more importantly "how" and "by who" they were done.
     
  18. petiks

    petiks Rookie

    Aug 22, 2009
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    hello! thanks for your input! :)
     

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