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  1. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    What do you mean exactly ?
     
  2. Johnny Prezemullo

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  3. Zaius

    Zaius Formula Junior

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    So what exactly was he doing?
     
  4. Johnny Prezemullo

    Apr 24, 2006
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    Mr. Emanuel Lipinski was released from Prison last week to wait for the trial - (i) after having pleading himself guilty - (ii) after paid several millions to the benefit of his victims - (iii) after depositing a six figure amount - (iiii) after depositing his austrian passport - (iiiii) after obliged to appear twice a week at a certain police station in Frankfurt.

    Johnny P.
     
  5. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    After translating the original link...it seems allegedly amongst other things buying up houses in the old East Germany then forcing out the tenants ,fixing them up and reselling them ,also mention of mafia type money laundering etc etc ...pretty big stuff .

    NB i am in no way suggesting that the Dr has done anything wrong..just posting what i saw on the translation.
     
  6. crazyblack

    crazyblack Karting

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    It wasn't East Germany, but East End Frankfurt and other districts in Frankfurt/Main.
     
  7. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    ahh ok thanks for the correction.
     
  8. faykau

    faykau Formula Junior

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    so he got his cars back or what?
     
  9. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    That's not the way that the Roman numeric system works. :D
     
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  10. Garretto

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    I don't think so!
     
  11. cridom60

    cridom60 Formula Junior

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    In a similar case I am following cars have been blocked in 2004 and still waiting to be released by Customs, for some of them (ferrari) its a good opportunity financially (500 km at this time for a supercar), and for some others their value today decreased a lot (bentley, maserati...)!
     
  12. tradelaw

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  13. Johnny Prezemullo

    Apr 24, 2006
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    News in the case of Mr. Emanuel Lipinski:

    Due to an report published 10th of November

    Link:
    http://www.hessenschau.de/panorama/anklage-wegen-steuerhinterziehung-in-millionenhoehe,anklage-investoren-100.html

    the following was stated:

    Million-euro tax evasion charge

    They are said not to have paid social security contributions for construction work on real estate and to have massively evaded taxes: the Frankfurt public prosecutor's office has now charged five construction investors. Among them is also a doctor, who caused quite a stir with another project.
    The Frankfurt public prosecutor's office employs a large-scale scam with real estate. The authority has brought charges against five men who are accused of not having paid social security contributions for construction projects and of having evaded taxes amounting to millions. At first, the Frankfurter Neue Presse had reported on this.
    Nadja Niesen, the public prosecutor's spokeswoman for the public prosecutor's office, spoke on Friday of an "extensive trial" involving numerous properties in the Rhine-Main region. The five suspects had been arrested. Three have been in custody since October 2016, two of them have been released with bail - the amounts of the bail are "seven-digit", said a spokesman for the regional court to hessenschau. de. If the trial is allowed before the Economic Criminal Court, it will take place in the coming year.
    Known doctor charged
    According to "FNP", the defendants also include a Frankfurt physician who allegedly acquired numerous properties with his associates through a "difficult to see-through corporate network". Financial irregularities "had occurred during construction work. Neighbours also accuse him of leaving older houses empty and neglected.
    He had also owned the building in which the left centre "IvI" was formerly located. He then got into trouble with the historical monument office because he had the building completely gutted without permission.
     
  14. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The last question.

    I am amazed to see the rythm of some people, and after losing everything, living with it the rest of his life with this idea, after everyone turns your back and looks at you with scorn.

    Was it all worth it?
     
  15. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    I would think if someone is willing to do that they wouldn't care what others think. How else could they do that if they actually cared about other opinions? Getting caught is all their probably cared about. I won't be surprised if the people involved end up doing something stupid again.
     
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  16. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    they should try to do something new. Work, roll up the sleeves, and have a taste in his work. they give bad appearance, that of winning a lot of sand getting tired. weekend of 3/5 days ...
    This is sad. a long debate. I see it everyday in Spain, they get caught, cry, and yes, they think only of them. They goes to prison, after a small period they leave, looking tired, prison must be great for reflection time...
    let's hope that the fall is served to something
     
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  17. Johnny Prezemullo

    Apr 24, 2006
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    Penal trial against former F-chatter Dr. Emanuel Lipinski has started 16th of January 2018
    Link (in german)
    http://www.bild.de/regional/frankfurt/frankfurt-am-main/zockten-unternehmer-zehn-mio-euro-ab-54497610.bild.html

    Translated with www.DeepL.com:

    "Three public prosecutors had to take over from each other when the 249 individual cases were read aloud: The tax fraud and undeclared work trial against society doctor Dr. Emanuel L. (50) and four business partners has begun before the Regional Court. They are said to have contributed around ten million euros to the tax office and social security funds.

    In October 2016, customs and police searched 83 buildings in Hesse, North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein during the "Perle" campaign, securing millions, arresting Dr. L (ipinski), Said M. (40,), Savvas V. (40), Neboja S. (35) and Mustafa I. (42).

    The prosecutors accusation: The gang had bought houses with a company wickerwork, renovated them black and thus made fat profits past the tax. Said M. is also charged with keeping 25 grams of cocaine in his "apartment for certain hours", Mustafa I. for illegal possession of a sharp Beretta.

    Even before the indictment was read out, the defence demanded inspection of files in a money laundering trial conducted by the "AG Pablo" of the Kripo for years.
    This is because the control process got under way with "Pablo" telephone surveillance. And "Pablo" may have got the hang of it: allegedly, a cocaine wholesaler of the Albanian mafia who died tragically in a stairfall in Marbella is said to have laundered millions of drugs with real estate deals in Frankfurt.

    As access to the files has now been granted, and the lawyers now have to read themselves into "Pablo", the trial date scheduled for Friday has been suspended.
    Continue on 26 January. Then Dr. L (ipinski) wants to testify."
     
  18. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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    He is still one of us.
     
  19. therryzsx

    therryzsx Formula 3

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    Does the convicted person can still work as physician?
     
  20. Johnny Prezemullo

    Apr 24, 2006
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    Question : Does the convicted person can still work as physician?

    Answer:

    In Germany a doctor will loose his license if the conviction is more than one year prison

    Mr. Lipinski has not been convicted yet, but it is very likely that he has blown off his doctor`s license
     
  21. Johnny Prezemullo

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    Mr. Emanuel Lipinski, the said "doctor from Frankfurt", was today convicted to 4 years and 9 month prison see Link: https://www.hessenschau.de/panorama/haftstrafen-fuer-bauinvestoren-wegen-steuerbetrugs-in-millionenhoehe,prozess-schwarzarbeit-steuerhinterziehung-frankfurt-100.html:

    "Five businessmen are imprisoned for several years for tax evasion and moonlighting worth millions. The Frankfurt Regional Court rejected suspended sentences in its ruling on Monday. A doctor from Frankfurt is also among those convicted.
    The five construction investors are said to have cheated the state by almost ten million euros. The defendants will now have to go to prison for several years because of millions of illegal jobs and tax evasion. On Monday, the Frankfurt Regional Court sentenced a 41-year-old man to four years and nine months in prison. The remaining four defendants, aged between 36 and 51 years, were sentenced to up to three years and nine months.
    According to the court's conviction, they had evaded taxes and social security contributions totalling more than ten million euros since 2010. The public prosecutor's office had accused the businessmen of having acquired real estate worth hundreds of millions of euros with the help of a network of companies. These had largely been redeveloped by workers employed in undeclared work.
    The accused had largely admitted the accusations in the trial before the Economic Criminal Chamber, which has been ongoing since mid-January. According to the court's assessment, the businessmen experienced in the real estate business should have been aware of their tax obligations. Until their arrest, however, no construction deduction and sales taxes had been declared.
    "Modern form of the slave trade
    One of the main defendants is a doctor from Frankfurt, against whom there had been repeated demonstrations in the West End because of his business conduct. According to the verdict, his reputation enabled him to gain access to exposed objects and donors.
    The presiding judge spoke of a modern form of slave trade. While the defendants had thought about buying a third Ferrari, they had accommodated their predominantly Romanian workers in dilapidated houses and paid them an hourly wage of seven euros.
    In court, the doctor had pointed out the "chaos in the bookkeeping" of the various companies, which had led to the evaded taxes and social security contributions. The judges especially accused the doctor of having made amends for the damage. However, in view of the high sums involved, probationary sentences were out of the question, according to the reasons for the decision."
     
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  22. kandi

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    Not really, no no.
     
  23. Marcel Massini

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    Any news?

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  24. Marcel Massini

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