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Do it. You will be very happy especially if you ease of use is appealing to you. You won't regret it.

 

"...and maybe little less maintenance"

Ya think? F430 doesn't even have timing belts. The Testa's major is enough to send your kid to college for a year.

 

Not if you do the service yourself.

 

I wouldn’t change a naturally aspirated V12 gated five speed for a F430 especially since Ferrari won’t be making anymore of those. Nothing like a classic testarossa. Yes a F430 is way more advance but nothing like driving a real car with no computer help just you the car the raw V12 power and that gated shifter. Those cars are only moving up in value and eventually keep climbing.


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Ever do one?

 

F430 comes in gated form too, and with a 6-speed, not a 5
F430 is also naturally aspirated
F430 does 0-60 in 3.6 secs, with only 8 cylinders
Testarossa does 0-60 in 5.2 secs. Raw V12 power? Maybe by 80's standards. BTW it's a flat-12, not a V. A little nitpicky.

However I do agree that, generally speaking, older cars are more engaging and fun than the newer ones. For that reason I bought a 328, which I am in love with.

 

Yes, over the last 30+ years there have been many, time consuming but very rewarding. Gotta be “involved” in these machines to enjoy them to there fullest
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Good to see. You are well aware of what is involved. Most are not! It take time, patience and personal fortitude to deal with a TR.

 

Good luck trying to find a gated F430. I still wouldn’t trade it for a F430. Your right the f430 is faster with a smaller engine but nothing will replace having a “flat 12” behind you!


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ahh no big deal just like workin’ on a chevy. Seriously, I think if you are mechanically inclined they aren’t that bad, probably the most difficult part is the water pump seal R/R.

 

Yahhhh....chevy my @ss! Own a 88 TR. The biggest thing is getting the engine out without a lift. Not much fun. Once out, time and patience and $$$$$$$.

 

I wouldn’t want to do any engine out Ferrari without a lift, I know it can be done but the lift is cheap to have compared with just one service bill from a shop. I have paid for my lift at least 20 times over the years.
My costs on the last engine out on my 512TR was under 1500.00 still not bad for any major service on any car. I guess my thoughts are that my costs in ownership of any of the Ferraris I have owned and maintained are cheap entertainment. How much can someone spend in a months time on eating out, going to movies or spending the weekend at the local drinking establishments I bet it would be more than 1500.00 .

 

Keep the TR, they will never come around like that again. Buy an 430 , but not at the expense of selling the TR.

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That’s it.
As Warren Buffet said “If I had never sold a Testarossa I would be much wealthier"

Add the 430, even F1 if need be because they are amazing…….
Testarossa vs 430- exemplifies life is a series of trade offs. I have a gated 430 and now 16 M and I still love ( and loved) the 12 cylinder Ferraris I have/had better.

As others pointed out, its a different set of experiences - good and bad.

Which will appreciate more in the long run? Well the Testarossa will over the 430 F1, but gated 430 vs Testarossa? Probably both with a nod to the 430.

It’s ok to move on and pick a new experience……The 430 is a younger, slimmer, sexier ( maybe ) version to leave your wife, I mean Testarossa for. We get it.

 

Definitely not!

 

don't do it!

 

As others have said, keep the 87 testarossa and buy another more modern Ferrari. Thats what I intend to do. I have an 87 Testarossa and it is an amazing experience. But down. the road, I would like to add a more modern Ferrari to the stable.

 

I believe the TR is technically a 180 degree V12, not a flat 12. The difference is the configuration of the crank shaft.


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My understanding is that a "180 degree V12", which is technically not a V because 180 degrees means it's flat, is one type of flat engine. The other type of flat engine is a boxer, like a 911. The difference is exactly as you stated - the crankshaft. In a boxer, each con rod has its own journal, whereas in a non-boxer (180 degree V), opposing con rods share the same journal. So I believe that "flat-12", meaning horizontally opposed, is correct for the Testarossa line and the 512BB.

 

The Testarossa was the top line production Ferrari of its era.
The 430 an entry model.
That said my own sights are set on a 430 Scud.