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  1. Michael72

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    Hello!

    I am new here at Ferrari Chat. I have some questions about a 1990 Ferrari Testarossa.
    I am looking for the correct manuals and books for a 1990 Ferrari Testarossa, European version. The car was built in October 1989 and sold in December 1989. But the model year is a 1990.

    Does anyone know what the correct printnumbers are (cat. n.) for:
    A) Warranty Card and Owner´s Service Book
    B) Sales and Service Organization
    C) Owner´s Manual

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

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    Things got pretty weird for late euro TR:
    What is the 8th digit of your VIN?
    What is the 10th digit of your VIN?
    What is the engine family marking on the engine block at cyl #6? F113B, F113B000, or something else?
     
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  3. lagunacc

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    c) 585/90
    b) 605/90
    a) 578/89
     
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  4. Michael72

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    ...What is the 8th digit of your VIN?
    What is the 10th digit of your VIN?
    What is the engine family marking on the engine block at cyl #6?...

    Tomorrow I will have a look at the engine and get back as soon as I know the answers.
     
  5. Michael72

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    c) 585/90
    b) 605/90
    a) 578/89

    Thank you for the information.
    Some say when it is a October 1989 built, the car could not by any means have been delivered with a '90 printed-version of the manuals and books in the pouch, meanwhile other say it could.

    May I ask what your source is, lagunacc?
    If you please could back up your info, I'll be very glad.

    Thanks again for the answer.
     
  6. lagunacc

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    my TR
     
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  7. Michael72

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    ...my TR...

    @lagunacc
    Do you also have a 1990 Euro version built in October of 1989 and sold in December of 1989? :)
     
  8. lagunacc

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    late 1990.

    mid 1990's appear to have Warranty card (#578/89), rest is the same.
     
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  9. Steve Magnusson

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    Can you please also provide what your car has for the same three questions:
    What is the 8th digit of your VIN?
    What is the 10th digit of your VIN?
    What is the engine family marking on the engine block at cyl #6? F113B, F113B000, or something else?
    and one more:
    Any cats or O2 sensors?
     
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  10. lagunacc

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    B
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    F113B
    had cats and 02 sensors
     
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  11. Michael72

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    ...What is the 8th digit of your VIN?
    What is the 10th digit of your VIN?
    What is the engine family marking on the engine block at cyl #6?...

    8th digit: B
    10th digit: 0
    Engine family marking: F113B
     
  12. Michael72

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    ...mid 1990's appear to have Warranty card (#578/89), rest is the same...


    Yes, I believe as you say that the correct "Warranty Card and Owner's Service Book" is 578/89.

    But is the "Sale and Service Organization" (Dealer Directory) 546/89 or 584/90 or 605/90..?
    And is the "Owner's Manual" (Technical Manual) 540/89 or 585/90..?

    What confuses me is if the Dealer Directory and Owner's Manual are printed in '90 when the car was built in October '89 and sold in December '89. Shouldn't the Dealer Directory and the Owner's Manual also (like the Service book) be printed in '89 instead of '90?
     
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  13. Steve Magnusson

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    And do you have cats or O2 sensors, or not?
     
  14. Steve Magnusson

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    You don't give a location for yourself -- do you mean it had cats and O2 sensors as a stock TR from the factory, or it was imported to the US and had cats and O2 sensors added later in the US?
     
  15. Michael72

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    ...And do you have cats or O2 sensors, or not?...

    I am not sure. It is a Euro version with Bosch KE Jetronic, if that is helpful.
    How do I find out if it has cats or O2 sensors?
     
  16. Steve Magnusson

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  18. lagunacc

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    Euro car, cats and sensors from the factory.
     
  19. Steve Magnusson

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    Then your car should only have the 585/90 OM and the 540/89 OM would be incorrect. As far as I can tell, the difference between the 540/89 OM and the 585/90 OM is:

    540/89 applies only to late euro TR having the F113B engine without cats, without O2 sensors, and without pulse air injection.

    585/90 applies to both late euro TR having the F113B engine without cats, without O2 sensors, and without pulse air injection AND to late euro TR with the F113B engine with cats, with O2 sensors, and with pulse air injection.

    I believe (based on the date of manufacture and the print numbers) that if Michael's TR does not have cats, etc. it would be more likely that his car would've had the 540/89 OM; however, if a F Dealer was selling Michael's TR and only had the 585/90 OM available, they would've just used that (and it would not be incorrect as 585/90 covers both types). Did I mention that things got weird for late euro TR? ;)

    For anyone interested, you can get a pdf copy of these OMs here:

    540/89 OM: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9c7j4qxb9ijm7kizgb6on/MUM_Testarossa-540_89-1989.pdf?rlkey=fp450w6s7bjsa9eanepoo1gz8&st=makz3zap&dl=0

    585/90 OM: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ujomcg80r8i4pgt9ht07l/MUM_Testarossa-585_90.pdf?rlkey=uq0i27ys2hk67pz3yrvbv8nin&st=hhv1t8ly&dl=0
     
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  20. Michael72

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    ...Look at your exhaust system, and compare to this TR SPC figure:
    https://www.ferrariparts.co.uk/diagram/ferrari/testarossa-tr-90/020-exhaust-system-(for-us-sa-and-cat-version)
    Items 18 are the cats, and items 1 are the O2 sensors (which mount into the cat inlet)...


    I try to upload a picture that I think shows that my TR has the cat and O2 sensors.

    - So does that mean that my TR (because it has the cats and O2 sensors) should have the 585/90 ("Owner's Manual/Technical Manual")...? (Even though it is built and sold in the autumn of '89)

    And from what I understand it should have the 578/89 regarding the "Warranty Card and Owner's Service Book".

    - But what about the "Sale and Service Organization" (Dealer Directory), should it have the 546/89 or 584/90 or 605/90...?

    If you also have a pdf copy of 578/89, 546/89, 584/90 and 605/90 I would very glad to download them too.

    Thank you for all your help!
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  21. Steve Magnusson

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    Yes, you definitely need the 585/90 OM. I believe the late euro TR stuff got all mixed up because different euro countries started requiring the emission equipment at slightly different times.
     
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  22. lagunacc

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    I have 578/89 not 540/89
     
  23. Steve Magnusson

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    Don't follow you here -- in post #8, you indicated that 578/89 is a Warranty card, and in your post #3 you wrote "c) 585/90" is your OM (which I believe is correct for you -- F113B engine with cats).
     
  24. lagunacc

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    I don't have 540/89. I saw a mid 90's TR with a 540/89.
     
  25. Steve Magnusson

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    #25 Steve Magnusson, Jan 11, 2025
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    I never said that you needed the 540/89 OM. I specifically said in post #19 that you should have the 585/90 OM for your late euro TR with cats configuration (and the 540/89 OM is for a late euro TR without factory cats). Do you like quoting my posts and just making unrelated, crazy statements?
     
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