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  1. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Nominated for Oscars? Seriously?
    Far, far away from that. Miles, thousands of miles away.

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  2. Gatorrari

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    It might get some nominations in the "technical" categories like art direction, editing, sound, etc. "Grand Prix" won a couple of Oscars in those categories.
     
  3. Giallo 550

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    I saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it very much. My father, a longtime Ferrari fan thought it was “excellent.”

    He was critical of Driver’s height and I was not a fan of Woodley’s lack of accent. Cruz was fantastic and entertaining. The cars were gorgeous. I wouldn’t have minded if the movie was an hour longer and the drivers’ stories were more fleshed out, but I get that it’s a “Ferrari” movie, not a “Scuderia Ferrari” movie.

    For the record, I’ve enjoyed Rush, and Ford Vs. Ferrari as well. I think the key is not expecting perfection and appreciating films for what they are as opposed to what you think they should be.
     
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  4. Albert-LP

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    Enzo Ferrari was 6' 3 1/2" tall (1,91 m), more or less as Adam Driver

    Ciao
     
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  5. JOEA2

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    Saw it last night with my wife and we both enjoyed it very much.

    Joe
     
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  6. DeSoto

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    I haven´t seen this movie, but check the nominations and awards of past years. It´s surprising who is in that list, and even more who is not.
     
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  7. Albert-LP

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    Massini, whom I didn't know was a movie critic too, in my opinion never miss an opportunity to criticize what Ferrari today does, given that Ferrari and many Modenians with a long past spent at Ferrari have acted as consultant (when not also as actors) for this movie.

    I'm not even close to be a movie critic, but I know that Antonio Tomaini, Brenda Vernor, Piero Ferrari and many others who worked many years ago at Ferrari factory - and very close to Mr. Enzo Ferrari - liked the film a lot. To my eyes this already is a sort of "nomination award".

    Ciao
     
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  8. Marcel Massini

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    Mr. Mantovani

    Thank you for your opinion. Not everything that is produced in and around Modena and Maranello is automatically incredibly good, sensational, wonderful, fabulous, fantastic, exciting, perfect and world's best and certainly not automatically Oscar-worthy. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. Unlike others I am not a slave of anybody. What distinguishes a person is someone who has the gift of looking at things a little more critically and with a wider perspective.
    I wish you a belated Happy New Year.

    Respectfully

    Marcel Massini
     
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  9. DeSoto

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    Don´t try to impress us with your "free mind brag": your opinion about movies is as good as anybody else´s here. Regarding this particular movie, I´d say it´s even worse, as there is some bias.

    I haven´t seen the movie and honestly, what I´ve seen looks quite cheap. It´s getting mostly bad reviews from movie critics. Yet, that´s not the point now.
     
  10. jgmblair

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    Took my two sons (20) & (15) and my daughters boyfriend (24), on the drive home my 20 yr old says "I thought it was gonna be about the cars" HAHAHAHAHAHA!
     
  11. redfred84

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    We genuinely enjoyed the movie, and greatly respected the super accurate details of EVERYTHING! The clothes, the furniture, the settings, etc. were all very realistic. Like the Worlds' Fastest Indian movie, it was a human story; not one about actual machines. Still, very well done, and I'm so glad that it was made & produced. Perhaps the short on how the car scenes were filmed would help relay what actually went into this massive effort. I'll try and find the link.
     
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  12. Giallo 550

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    It currently has a 73% on Rotten Tomatoes, which is not bad.

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ferrari_2023
     
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  13. johnireland

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    How movies (and all the people who made them) end up with Oscar nominations and awards is largely subject to chance and timing. The political bias of the majority of the academy members, as well as the guilds that comprise most of the talent, is predictably based on current US political trends. There is nothing politically correct about nor in "Ferrari." The is a steep hill for the movie to climb. And yet there have been years when "litte films" or "personal films" or "art films" (and Ferrari is all of those) surprise everyone. This is a little film in terms of subject matter, it is a personal film in terms of Michael Mann, and it is an art film in terms of the beauty with which it was crafted. and also the less obvious choices it made. Often it will be the third most favored film that wins because the first two films cancel each other out. If Michael Mann wins the Directors Guild award, if Driver and Cruz do the same in the Actor's Guild, that will help in the Oscars. But often the individual voters will give a vote to an actor but not the picture, or to the director but not the writer, or to technical credits to compensate for ignoring a film for more important awards. Again...politics will have a strong impact this year and many in the industry will simply not vote for (and against?) a movie about a straight man who slept around and who made and raced gasoline powered cars...and who expected men to put their lives on the line in pursuit of winnning in his cars.
    "Ferrari" is about and man and his time, neither may find a welcome at the Oscars this year.
     
  14. Rifledriver

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    Especially so now that various PC markers are an acknowledged official part of scoring a movie so that it is even eligible. I suspect this film is far too ethno and sexual centric to ever get on the radar screen.
     
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  15. redfred84

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    But a war movie, or one about gangsters (God Father) is OK?
     
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  16. Giallo 550

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    Right; masculine business and sporting success within the confines of the law is out of bounds. :D
     
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    Well said
     
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  18. Albert-LP

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    Please explain me in a better way: are you telling us that ONLY YOU IN THE WORLD have the gift of looking at things a little more critically and with a wider perspective?

    Thank you.
     
  19. macca

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    also Duque de Alágon and Condé de Pernia.

    I liked it as a film, having been a film buff for 40 years.

    The replica cars were initially built up by Neil Layton in Newbury, England, using Caterham drivetrains in special chassis, before going to Italy for coachbuilding. The 250F and 250TdF are real.

    Paul M
     
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  20. Gatorrari

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    After seeing the movie, I finally bought a copy of Brock Yates' book, which I had been avoiding because I assumed that it would have been too sensationalized. This 2019 Penguin paperback edition has an addendum written by Yates' stepdaughter Stacy.

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  21. furmano

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    Compared to what?
     
  22. Jack-the-lad

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    Ah. I received some misinformation that his daughter had rewritten the book to soften the now-“offensive” parts, but I guess that isn’t accurate. I was interested enough to search for the supposedly “revised” edition, without success. I guess the addendum you mention is it. What does the addendum say?

    I still have my first printing copy which my wife read to me while I was driving on a long trip.
     
  23. Gatorrari

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    It basically brings the story up to 2019, concentrating on the activities of two men: Luca di Montezemolo and Sergio Marchionne. Racing activity is largely described only in general terms, aside from the creation and dissolution of the "Schumacher team" that won all those championships in the early 2000s. It is critical where it has to be but not overly so, and I found it a useful addition.
     
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  25. stever

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    Amazon Prime now has 'Ferrari' at $20 to rent.
     

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