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Ferrari to build new 250 GTO!

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  1. Robertb

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    Jealous regarding the success of Ford's new GT, insiders say that Ferrari management are considering a car based the 250 GTO, powered by the Enzo V12...

    No, not really.

    But do you think there would be a market if they did decide to build a new 250 GTO, swb, or California spyder?

    Imagine the retro style combined with modern mechanicals... it worked for Ford, why not Ferrari?

    I'd be interested, if I could afford one...

    Any views, anyone?

    Robert.
     
  2. stevep

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    would be great if they did, but suspect they'd keep em to a limited 349 run and offer them to collectors before the genral public, so we would never really see em on the road
     
  3. WILLIAM H

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    I would LOVE to see a modern 57 pontoon Testa Rossa. That would be awesome

    or a 330 P4 for the street :)
     
  4. Koby

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    I consider the Challenge Stradale to be the modern iteration of the 250GTO.
     
  5. Jason Crandall

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    You can't run a company being RE-ACTIVE.
     
  6. zjpj

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    CS - mid-engine
    GTO - front-engine

    CS - 8 cyl.
    GTO - 12 cyl.

    CS - no race history; nor do any racing 360s have significant race histories
    GTO - race history, to say the least.

    CS - close to 1,000 made
    GTO - 36 made

    I could go on... They have completely different 1. designs 2. production histories 3. intended uses and 4. actual uses in history.
     
  7. zjpj

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    To answer the original question, I am overjoyed that Ferrari has not yet headed down this path, and I truly hope that they do not. Firstly, aerodynamics have evolved to the point that they would probably butcher the original shape in an attempt to make it work at modern speeds. Second, they would make more than 36, and that would eliminate some of its specialness. Third, it is unlikely that a new one would be able to be as dominant and spectacular as the original, and that would tarnish the image and aura of the old one.

    Let the retired cars have their glory and don't interfere. Try to make new ones that do the same thing! Unfortunately, the nature of cars today makes me wonder what the collector market will be like 50 years from now. Production is so high that collectability will be next to none. Secondly, whereas race cars such as the GTO are quite driveable (even on the street) and, though requiring lots of work, they can be repaired by an experienced mechanic doing his mechanical magic. The only low production, potentially collectable cars now are the race cars that have a whole range of technology that older cars simply don't have. How are you going to repair a 1999 F1 transmission in 75 years? Fixing a whole slew of computers isn't quite the same as fiddling with carburetors. As a result, I unfortunately don't see how it is possible that any kind of collector market for current cars will exist 50 years from now as it does now for cars produced 50 years ago. There may never be another 250 GTO.

    But that should not stop Ferrari from trying. You can capture the spirit of the GTO without building a modern car clothed in some semblance of a GTO skin: make a car that simply dominates.
     
  8. parkerfe

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    What would be much better would be a new 166 Barchetta with a small 3 liter V-12 that weighed 2000 pounds or so with nothing but a steering wheel, seats, shifter, pedals and gauges inside. No power windows, no a/c, no radio...just a basic car that had the beautiful lines of the 166 and the sound of a small displacement V12....
     
  9. Napolis

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    Mine is 2 liter and weighs 1600lbs otherwise it's close.
     
  10. Omerta

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    250 GTO is a classic. Do not disrupt the name. Leave it as a classic. IMO.
     
  11. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    Napolas, great looking car..., I was referring to the 166 Barchetta which also had a 2 liter V12 as I recall.
     
  12. El Wayne

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    ??? What do you consider to be significant? How about Le Mans, Sebring and Daytona, where a 360GT finished 2nd in class?
     
  13. zjpj

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    That's not exactly what I meant. Of course they have competed in the significant races. But, we're not talking dominance vs. the Porsches, and we're certainly not talking about dominance at the level of the GTOs.

    Three Manufacuters' Championships! What a time that must have been
     
  14. andrewg

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    Enzo's favourite car was always the next one he built, ford may have to look to past glory (the Lola designed original) but Ferrari can look to the future after all why copy something when for a little more effort you can build something truely new
     
  15. UroTrash

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    Maybe the cars that will stand out 50 years from now may be from some small, obscure manufacturer that does not register on our collective radar screen..... yet.

    I would guess that some one looking at a worn out Ferrari 50 years ago might view it as I would a semi-wadded Panoz last week-end, i.e. nothing special, just an old racer ready for the junk yard.

    If we only knew what manufacturer was destined to survive and go on to produce world class cars, we'd know what junkers to tuck in the back of our garages.
     
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  17. Cavallini

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    Because Ferrari and Pininfarina create, they do not need to imitate their own past.

    However, they do echo the themes of their heirtage, which is a beautiful combination of growth and tradition.



    Forza,


    Cavallini
     
  18. F328 BobD

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    I can't see Ferrari going retro... for one thing, they just don't need to do it.
     
  19. dmcgill

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    i dont see why ferrari would take a back road to the past and try to create a modern interpretation of the classic 250 gto, no matter how much praise the ford gt gets. ferrari is never going to look into the past for a reincarnation of any car! they will onlycontinue to look into the furure.

    and i'm glad, they dont need to look into the past.
     
  20. RacerX_GTO

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    "Retro" is best left to the American car makers. "Retro" does not define world class sports cars. It is unspeakable terminology in the Ferrari world.
     
  21. dmcgill

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    I think the same thing.
     

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