Forecast is for RAIN!
I would think they would want a dry race with the developement BS has recently done and apparently MS is upbeat about after testing last week. But then again, he's just a tired old racer whose lost the eye of the tiger
The rain is just about the only chance they have of a good showing, so let it come down IMO. They are slow because of a lot more than just the tires. Their whole mentality didn't pay off this year, they backed too far away from the edge, sure they're reliable, but McLaren (and too a lesser extent Renault) took the risk and it paid off. Just my $.02, but MS is still the best overall driver on the grid.
With the WCC still up for grabs don't expect the others to back down either. I'd agree with the conventional logic that rain favors BS, but it's been so long since we've had a wet race that it's tabula rasa
That was conventional logic of past years. Spa only 2 races ago was very damp and the BS intermediates were not up to the Michelins. So I wouldn't expect an advantage if it's wet.
I think its just a testing fo rth enext couple of races. With RB leaving, nothing new is coming out for sure in the cars. I wish it would rain also, its been a while since I saw some real racing. This year was boring, kinda knew that FA would win the title, KR did a great effort, but you just knew that with PJM as his teammate they were not going too far.
IMO, any distinct advantage that Ferrari may find in the rain, would be more aptly attributed to MS, rather than BS.
Wet races are more fun to watch plus MS should out perform most of the field, so I truly hope for some of the wet stuff. Maybe I wont have to struggle to stay awake with some exciting rain racing like I have so many of the other races this season. Msrk
reign in your expectations - if they podium that will be a miracle, I just hope that they are able to keep Toyota at bay in the Manufacturers' Championship.
MS is called Der Regenmeister, but maybe you guys are a bit overly optimistic. Rain is a good equalizer for an underperforming car, no doubt. But it doesn't compensate for a bad rain tire. Prova85 rightfully mentions the limitations of the BS tire in Spa. Also there is a limit to what one can do in the wet. Remember Interlagos two years ago? MS sailed right off the track.
We need a dry race ... every millimetre of tyring testing Bridgestone can get is critical Roll on next year ... but I still think McLaren and Renault will be the fast ones. Pete
FYI tabula rasa The mind before it receives the impressions gained from experience. The unformed, featureless mind in the philosophy of John Locke. A need or an opportunity to start from the beginning.
well, in brazil, it wasn;t down to the tires, it's called aquaplanning. this is where the stagnant water gets in between the tires and the tarmac, which means logically, it's gripless. in other words, the driver is just a passenger here..
I think the whole Der Regenmeister is a tad overblown with MS. There are many in the field that are good in the wet these days. MS hasn't dominated a wet race in quite a while. He hasn't proven to be the same rain master as he once was in his younger days. Rain or shine, Ferrari is in trouble as they have been all year.
If MS and/or Ferrari can pull off a third place in their respective championships it seems it's still considered to be a mediocre or even bad season. A lot of team onwers would cut off a limb for such a result. Funny isn't it...
Heavy rain during the race will make the race more interesting and I think it will help MS. Wouldn't it be great if he won a race this year?
So, the rebuttal against MS in the rain is based on a race in which a Jordan won being driven by a then obscure Fisichella, when the race was called early... that makes perfect sense. I agree, MS is horrible in the rain... Jeez, talk about making the exception the rule. Is MS a Senna in the rain? No, but look around the grid, who else is closer?
I didn't say he is horrible in the rain. All I said is, that he too has limitations when it comes to rain. When an "obscure Fisichella" manages to stay on track and take the flag while MS sails off (and narrowly avoiding being decapitated btw), then it tells you, that just praying for rain at Suzuka won't be the answer to a lousy Ferrari 2005 chassis and tire combination.
I should clarify too since I'm definitely not a blind MS supporter (until this year, I wasn't really a fan at all, but him sticking it out and manning up in Monaco and Hungary earned some credit from me). He certainly has limitations, and rain definitely isn't the answer to Ferrari's problems. But, poor weather drastically limits the chassis and power advantages other team's have proven they possess. It's pretty clear that Ferrari has essentially zero chance of winning without outside intervention (ie, the USGP, bad weather, or the hand of God). Will rain change everything? I doubt it, but if it's forecasted, I'll definitely be watching Sunday to find out.
On the rain appart from the tires, the most differentiating component will probably be the Traction Control. So, who has a better traction control? I would say that still are McLaren and Renault, and then quite probably Ferrari, isn't it? - Julio.
