FERRARI V12 sounds

It's been awhile since I looked into this but what does the F50 have? To me that's the best sounding street going Ferrari V12.

It's a matter of personal taste but I like the F1 sound. As nice as the 599 and F12 sound I actually prefer the Murcielago noise because of that F1 shriek. Still, the 599 is a huge improvement over the 550/575 series as far as engine note goes.

 

F50 is 6-2-1, but there are aftermarket 6-1 manifolds available:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbX48213JC8[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34kGw821RY[/ame]

A huge difference between stock and 6-1 I'm sure you'll agree . The F50's engine sounds so well (even in stock form) because it's 6 valves per cilinder, and mounted directly to the chassis with not much sound deadening.

 

For my 550...the kreissieg F1 valvetronic exhaust with X pipe cat back system on my car is pure F1 Sound
No other 550 or 575 I have heard comes close

 

Listen to a 599 GTO screaming down the main straight!! It's engine noise comes from the XX series and has little to do with the 599.

 

I seem to recall from my lectures about the V8 Cosworth when I was young that the different configurations of exhausts on that particular engine: 2 X 2 into one, and then these into one single exhaust for each bank was supposed (but I might be wrong on this, as the book is deep down in my Library) to favor torque over high end horse-power. Once the engine has proved after one or two seasons that it had enough torque to fight the opposition, then they went to the more usual "4 into One" (direct translation from the french "quatre dans un)" to gain some horse power at the high end?

Rgds

 

I think you mean 5 valves per cylinder but yeah the car sounds amazing either way. I think another important factor is the individual throttle bodies which make quite a difference. My favorite sounding one is still the F50 GT1 but not sure what header set up that has.

That's right, I forgot the GTO has 6 into 1 and didn't know the F12 was the same. Gotta research the Murcielago.

 

I'm pretty sure the "tri-Y" exhausts were for more low and midrange torque vs 4 into 1 or 6 into 1 are more free flowing and better for high rpm.

Anyway I believe that was the reason for my 4 into 1 on my 4cyl TVR motor's exhaust I had custom made for the motor years ago.

 

Well, it depends what you call "the screaming V12", by this I mean, which period?
The first Matra V12 had 6 exhaust tubes, three on each bank, so one for two cylinders.
In the Mid-seventies, the "Flat Twelves" (Alfa-Roméo and Ferrari) had four exhaust tubes: two on each bank, so one for three cylinders.
When the V12 came back in 1989, they had "6 into 1" I believe; but on the Honda, it was four "3 to 1", and then, on each bank, the 2 into the final tube via an "Y", see link here enclosed:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_MP4/6#/media/File:Honda_RA121E_engine_Honda_Collection_Hall.jpg

Rgds

 

And the Ferrari Tipo 035/5 of 1989 really looks to have four groups of tubes (each for three cylinders) because if you look at the exhaust end pipe itself, it is clearly divided in two. So no two "6 in 1" here, but four "3 in 1".

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_640#/media/File:Mus%C3%A9e_Ferrari_Maranello_0051.JPG

Rgds

 

Don't listen to anyone that tells you just to do a cat back, it wont do it. The standard Ferrari V12's Pre F12/FF don't sound anything like a 599GTO and most of that revolves around headers and head design. To get a 550/575/599 to sound close to a GTO you have to do headers.

To me they do not sound good without doing headers, they have a very low and boring sound to them

 

The GTO also eliminated the precats in the 599 headers, another reason for better sound. Catalyst technology has improved quite a bit, so the precats were no longer needed. But the 6-1 headers were the big improvement, as Fabio's 575 exhaust demonstrates.

 

The only engines that melted the marrow off a lady's bones and made her unable to walk were the Colombo Ferrari engines of the 60's. The 250 and the 365 would make the leaves fall from the trees as you thundered by. No sound in the world like it. Maybe I'm an old fart, but you can't compare the tone and feeling it evoked compared with today's Ferraris.

I sold all my cars when Enzo died and I moved abroad, so I'm not a player anymore like you guys. I still prefer the look of that vintage to the current models. Todays cars are much better, but can't compare in sound to barreling through a forest at night with the windows open or the top down.

I still get goosebumps remembering...

 

Totally agree, which is why I am looking at getting 6-1 headers at some point (hopefully in 6 months) for my 599.

 

Can you post a sound clip?

I find it hard to believe any 550/575 sounds as good or better than Fabio's exhaust:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8F9aqAGuWo[/ame]

 

I would suspect that the car in the video has headers, just a guess

 

If you mean the video posted by tres then yes it has 6-1 headers (made by Fabio)

Vastly improves the sound (in my opinion)

 

Yea, no cat back on a 550/575/599 doesn't sound anything close to that, anyone that says they do needs their ears checked

Who is Fabio because I know SuperSprint makes 550/575 headers

 

Headers work for almost all Ferrari V12's. It's the home run mod that makes the car come to life and sound like it should. Stock or just a cat back they sound terrible unless you get into the newer generation F12 ect...

SuperSprint is 6-2 / 2-1 . They also have catless available

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My opinion for the best sounding Ferrari v12 street car ever is:

1) F50
2)599 GTO
3)F12 TDF

 

F50 is 5 valves per cylinder (3 intake, 2 exhaust). I dont know of any car with 6 valves per cylinder.