Hehe. Tis one of the biggest rivalries. Bloods vs crips, tupac vs biggi, conservatives vs liberals, ford vs chevy, jews vs arabs. The L vs F rivalry is definitely up there.
Lamborghini does put look over function and safety. Italian cars are fire hazards anyway but with the Countach, Diablo, or Merci you roll and end upside down and on fire you'd better hope you are conscious and have your wits to smash out the glass to get out, if you are out you are done for, no bystanders are going to know how to get you out, a onboard fire system is a false security once a fire gets going its nearly impossible to put out unless you have a firetruck.
I'll have to disagree with you on that one. While it is true that The driver is even more important in the viper than the f-car since the does not have the manners of a fcar and is hard to handle near the limit. with equally good drivers in most situations would be a mismatch with the viper cleaning up. weather on a drag strip road course or spirited country drive. Either that or the viper guys just beat on there cars a little harder?
Ferrari may be slower than a Viper or Lambo but it has a racing heritage and a certain mystique about them.That trumps all.I mean,who cares about going fast or outperforming everything when I know that Shumi's out there doing it for Ferrari. Joe
Peter Pan has mystique James bond has mystique Even Mickey Mouse has mystique..it still doesn't change the fact that ALL the mystique in the world plus .25 cents .... still won't buy you a candy bar. When Ferrari loses in the HP wars, and the Exotic style wars.... but still has the highest prices and a below average quality/repair price ratio, they need something more then a 360 with a aero-kit and a engine from a Maseratti for their next car. Good luck Ferrari I hope you pull a magic rabbit out of your hat (a real baby Enzo) Mystique only buys you so much time
Oh man oh man oh man. I never knew Lamborghini would actually go for it! A few years back in Geometry class we were working on polygons and learning about angles and stuff so a few friends and I decided to draw out a few cars using what we learned for a end-of-class final project! After hours of hard planning to make one of the most angular cars that we could think of, we decied to call it the Gallardo for .. well I forgot why we got the name, but we were drunk at the time so forgive us. I thought that it would look very nice with a Ferrari badge on it as it would mean it had racing heritage and had a name. My suggestion was refuted as they said that this was supposed to be a "real" driving machine. My right hand man (responsible for the air vents in the back) quickly gave us a laconic on why it should be flagged as a BMW! No. We will not be related to Chris Bangle in anyway or form we all retaliated. It was getting late so we decided to catch some sleep so we saved all our drawings and scanned them into the computer and I put them on my webserver to place on my xanga. Little did I know that there was a new virus out that allowed a hacker access to my computer! From the IP address' I've logged I traced most of the attacks that happened that night to Italy and a few to Germany. After I called their and mine ISP's to use triangulating and calling a few numbers I found out that all the owners of the IP address' belong to Audi and Lamborghini's design team! THEY STOLE OUR DRAWINGS FOR THE GALLARDO! What had turned out into a simple project for math, turned into one of the best cars under the 200k$ mark redefining what a sports car should be! Long live the bull =) If anyone actually believes that it was my project, please give me the keys to your F-Car, P-Car, whatever, right now!
For once, a flattering view of the rear of a Gallardo! I saw the glass hatch in person recently -- it's beautifully designed. (it's a pricey option, btw)
This all stems from the masculine desire to have a conflict with someone. This is why sports are popular: it's like having a little war with a rival city - another state or locality you can declare conflict with, send out your little gladiators, and be able to declare victory on someone. It's the war prep that keeps economies and spirits burning with energy. International sports like World Cup soccer intensify the social energy of the war. So Ferrari and Lambo owners pick each other, for historical and target market segment reasons, and have a "cold war." I think it's a compliment to both this acknowledgment of a worthy foe; despite their good cars as of late, we haven't seen a rash of anti-Aston Martin sentiment here, if only because they aren't taken seriously. That said, I think that what a person declares as their perception of 'the other side' says more about them (in tastes and preferences) than the owners of the opposing marque. There's a paradox where the owners of one or the other (or the non-owners of either) tend to be the most biased, while owners of both obviously have a preference but are more open to having a flexible opinion of both groups.
Thats pretty innovative on their part, eh? Gee, Lambo has brought (TRYING) to keep up with the Jonses' to a whole new level....in a ba$tard, red-headed stepchild kinda way. DL
Exotic cars are all about emotion and bringing those emotions out. Heck...that's one of the reasons they all can charge soooo much for these cars and make a whole bunch of profit. I hope that you don't think that a 360 costs more than $40-$50K to actually produce...becuase it doesn't! The Lambo/Ferrari argument has been around since Ferruccio decided that his Ferrari sucked (and Enzo told him to get stuffed!)...and that he was going to make something better. Well this time (and finally) they have...with a little help from Audi of course. But it's the emotions that both of these great marques bring out in all of us...whether for or against that manages to distract us from our normal day to day trials and tribulations. Long live the battle! Well....let's see if Ferrari can answer....I can't wait! Ciao....Dino btw...I believe that the pic of the silver Gallardo is Casino Square's car...I've driven it and it is absolutely brilliant!...and Casino Square is a good enough driver to exploit the car's potential!
Ferrari has answered back and its called the Enzo. Tell me of a lamborghini that you know of that can beat it?
Dam good shot Wayne.I cant imagine how someone wouldnt like that azz-end,but to each his own.Great color too!!Still think it needs a wing,but then Im a wing guy.
Sorry but the Enzo gets a grade of "F" for not hitting the $300,000 price point Sorry but it gets another "F" for not being able to walk in a Dealer, spec it out and order one. And for the perfect low score, it gets another "F" for not being available to car-nuts in 5 years at the $180k price range. These 3 factors are the difference between a "real car" like a Murci/or 575 and a museum piece. Great car, too bad I'm not Royalty
There are two Lamborghinis and two Ferraris in my garage: LM002 and early Diablo, 512TR and F40. Having driven these four cars extensively on the street and track, I have come to the conclusion that Lamborghinis (at least the late '80s/early '90s models) are made to go in a straight line. They are not made to turn. The Diablo is amazingly ponderous on the track, uneager to turn in, and difficult to see out of. The acceleration and speed, though, are terrific. A few years ago, we sold a 25th Anniv. Countach which was a truly awful automobile. It looked nice (some would say somewhat garish) and accelerated fast, but was bad to drive on the street, difficult to turn at speeds below 30mph, had poor brakes, had spotty reliability, and odd quirks (impossible to turn off the A/C blower). On top of that, anyone over 5'10" would find it difficult to drive, and at 6' and 170lbs, I had to drive with my head tilted to the right lest I hit the ceiling. The mailslot windows were a joke. With size 11 feet, I had to drive shoeless because my toes hit the top of the pedal box. I'm unfamiliar with the late Diablos, Murcis, and Gallardos, but I'm sure they've come a long way since the earlier cars. That said, Ferraris are - and have been for the past 25 years - very solid cars. Compared to Lamborghini, I have experienced excellent reliability and easy drivability. My Ferraris are tossable and entertaining on the street and track, comfortable, fast, and look great. There's really nothing more to ask for, as far as I'm concerned. As far as perception of the owner, I've found that more people stop and look when I'm in a Lamborghini. The LM gets the most comments and stares, and I've resorted to telling people it's a kit car when they ask. Just my $0.02.
Yes, I especially like the rear end. The side is good too. But I dont like the front lol Im sorry but this wasn't a very good statement to make. The Enzo: 1) Is a limited edition car. You cannot buy an Enzo from a dealer. You need another Ferrari in order to actually get "considered". 2) Costs the double of a new Murcielago. Or shall we say 3 times the cost of a murcielago? You can find Enzos for 800k dollars. 3) Has Ultra high maintance costs. Therefore you must agree that you cannot simply compare an Enzo to a Murcielago, they are in different leagues, at least pricewise.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. With that said, now my opinon; Every Lamborghini I've seen just has that 'power' to it, kind of like a special fragrance that once you get close enough just to sample it you know exactly what it is. Ferrari's have lost that after seeing a 360 here, and a 550 there and so on. They are still exotics no matter what, and I like how a lot of people are saying it's like a rival city! That fits this perfectly. Doesn't the glass back reduce stability? Torque or something of the other?
In my new Car and Driver mag they have a little blurb titled "Wanted:One Enzo for our trial by Fire" and it goes on to say that as their annual supercar challenge draws near not a single Enzo owner has dared to step forward. As usual, the few Enzo owners we know go slinking off, muttering the usual,"Ferraris are not about numbers". Pretty sad.
"The Gallardo is beautiful in all aspects." Those are beautifully photographed shots! It's amazing what a difference a few degrees of viewing angle can make. That said, most cars look great in black -- even the Elise!
Fine we will leave the enzo out. lets talk about the F40. it is over 13 years old and i dont know of a lamborghini that can beat it. They are not hard to get because there were over a thousand built and you can find some with a few miles for under three hundred thousand. It will out perform any lamborghini on the track, and will go toe to toe with a murci in a straight line. now dont get me wrong i like lamborghini's alot and im not knocking them, i was just making a statement that ferrari did answer lamborghini's call.
