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Ferrari watches thread : From vintage chronographs to partnership with manufacturers

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  1. Brian A

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    This thread is fascinating reading.

    Modena1967: your diligence and depth of knowledge is amazing. Thank you for all of this documentation.

    Personally, I consider the Girard Perregaux era to have produced the most beautiful Ferrari watches.

    Are there any production statistics (or guestimates) regarding how many Ferrari watches each of the major Ferrari watch manufacturers produced? Total number of Ferrari Longines vs Girard Perregaux vs Panerai, etc?

    I am most curious just how many Girard Perregaux 8020s were manufactured.
     
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    Hublot Techframe Ferrari 70 years Tourbillon Chronograph :

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    Hublot is joining in with Ferrari’s 70th anniversary celebrations in Maranello by producing a special limited edition of its Techframe Tourbillon Chronograph to be sold at auction (Lot number 109,Leggenda e Passione 2017, Rm Sothebys).

    https://www.rmsothebys.com/ff17/ferrari--leggenda-e-passione

    2017 looks set to be well and truly the year of the prancing horse, as Ferrari’s extraordinary story enters its seventh decade. The company’s history has been marked by its outstanding achievements in competition, together with the unparalleled range of sports cars it has created over the years. Hublot watches have been linked with this motoring legend for five years now, and in fact the partnership has just been extended. It’s a meeting of minds between two brands in search of absolute excellence: a perfect union between the two worlds of motoring and watchmaking.

    On 9 September, Ferrari will celebrate its 70th anniversary in Maranello, during which there will be an auction featuring exceptional cars and accessories emblazoned with the prancing horse logo. The Swiss watchmaking brand has developed a limited edition watch for the occasion – a unique design based on the Hublot Techframe Ferrari 70 Years Tourbillon Chronograph.

    Unveiled at this year’s Baselworld show, this collection is the result of an intensive collaboration between car designers and high-end watchmakers. It’s also the first non-automotive object that has been designed by Ferrari’s in-house team, Centro Stile, led by Flavio Manzoni. Taking the movement of the Hublot Tourbillon Chronograph (the "engine") as a starting point, the Italian designers developed the watch following the same creative processes as those used for sports car chassis, to achieve minimal weight combined with a solid frame. The Swiss watchmakers then inserted a high-performance "engine" into this structure: the HUB6311 calibre hand-wound manufacture movement, containing a total of 253 components and with a 5-day power reserve. This one-of-a-kind mechanism is fitted with a tourbillon with exclusive operation, and also has a chronograph feature.

    Following this design, the unique model to be offered at auction is set apart by its skeleton case middle – the chassis – which is made from uni-directional carbon, PEEK (polyether), a multi-layer hypoallergenic material, and the case – the engine cover – made from King Gold, the celebrated gold/ceramic alloy developed by Hublot. The dial, which features both the Hublot and Ferrari logos, takes inspiration from the counters on Ferrari’s instrument panels. The open design leaves the movement visible, and allows a glimpse of the beautiful ruthenium anthracite finish.
     
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    Enzo's gift to Dorino Serafini :

    This stainless steel Zenith chronograph, #9134901, Zenith 143-6 powered (derived from Excelsior park caliber#4),
    was given by Enzo Ferrari to formula one test driver Dorino Serafini after the 1950 Monza formula one Italian
    grand prix.

    Let's go back to 1950 :Dorino Serafini, former motorcycle racer has signed for Ferrari as a sportscar racer
    and formula one test driver. Alberto Ascari teammate Luigi "Gigi" Villoresi broke his left leg at the Swiss Geneva Grand prix des nations held on july 30.

    Villoresi was out of action, so Enzo asked Serafini to replace him for the Italian Grand Prix.

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    (Ascari, Ferrari, Serafini)

    Serafini drove 47 laps with #48 Ferrari 375 before Enzo asked him to hand over his car to team leader
    Ascari who had already retired.

    Ascari finished second place in the race and Enzo gave Serafini a Zenith Chronograph
    to reward his sense of team spirit.

    Beautiful story for beautiful watch, isn'it ?

    (Pics courtesy of Fchat member "arezzo")

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    Nice pic for a nice chronograph. Congrats !
     
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    My latest watch buy :

    An Eberhard Tazio Nuvolari stainless steel chronograph on bracelet, powered by a Valjoux 7750, purchased in Italy from his first owner and never ever worn. First series Nuvolari's chronograph (1992-1996) is easily identifiable : The D' Annuzio turtle has legs, others don't.
    Protective caseback sticker is still there. Needs to be oiled after 23 years waiting for me !

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    Heuer Carrera ref. 1158 : The pilot's watch.

    Watch case : 69 grams, 18k yellow gold, 38.5mm diameter.
    Maille Milanaise bracelet : 73 grams, 18k yellow gold.
    Plexiglass crystal.
    Heuer caliber 12, 17 jewels automatic chronograph caliber.

    Around 150 pieces made. (Three times the price of a stainless steel Heuer Carrera.)

    The Heuer Carrera ref 1158 automatic 18k chronograph, known as "the pilot's watch" was initially intended to be a gift from Heuer CEO Jack Heuer for Scuderia Ferrari pilots and team members with their name and a dedication engraved on the caseback. Due to its popularity Jack heuer decided to produce some more pieces to sell them.
    Enzo Ferrari get a watch, as Mauro Forghieri, Regazzoni, Merzario, Andretti, Villeneuve, Scheckter, Reutemann, and Ickx.

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    From my point of view Panerai is much more linked to diving than sports car racing even with a scudetto on the dial.
    Otherwise, nice chronograph powered by a Valjoux 7753 (Panerai OPXII), so no mechanical parts shortage, or costly maintenance.
    Any watchsmith can repair a Valjoux caliber.
     
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    Audemars Piguet Ferrari 315s #532, Mille Miglia 1957, driver Wolfgang Berghe Von Trips.
    15 pieces made, 33mm 18k rose gold case, automatic movement.

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    This thread never ceases to be startling in terms of the watches you discover and show us. How you do it is unfathomable, but thank you anyway for sharing your photographs, knowledge and enthusiasm. It is always fascinating reading your latest posts.
     
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    As i previously said Santa came early this year . Here's some pics of my latest buy, an Eberhard&Co chronograph "Tazio Nuvolari Vanderbilt Cup naked".
    Eberhard&Co is an old (1887) independant brand too, and it is so rare nowadays that it deserves mention.
    Eberhard&Co is a niche brand, as said Mario Peserico, managing director, and has a very strong connection with vintage car races and exhibitions.
    Eberhard&Co is the official timekeeper, among others, of Gran Premio Nuvolari and Targa Florio Classic.

    This chronograph "Tazio Nuvolari Vanderbilt Cup Naked" is dedicated to the Scuderia Ferrari legendary driver Tazio Nuvolari and his 1936 victory at the Vanderbilt cup.

    Ref : 31068

    Case diameter 42mm, Thickness 13.45mm, water resistance 30m. sapphire crystal front and back, Tazio's signature is screen printed on the transparent caseback that displays the Eta/Valjoux based caliber.

    Movement : Mechanical self winding caliber 13 1/4 8102 ( a highly modified by Eberhard&Co Eta/Valjoux 7750 caliber) with blue screws, perlage, côtes de Genève, reset pusher coaxial with the winding crown, a feature reminiscent of the Eberhard&Co coaxial chronographs of the 30's. Start and stop pusher at two o'clock.

    Follow the link to discover the ETA/Valjoux 7750 history and his creator Edmund Capt :

    https://www.pageandcooper.com/blog/the-valjoux-and-its-creator/

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    EBERHARD & CO.: THE ART OF DEFYING TIME : A Great History of Men and their Watches

    130 years: a milestone that Eberhard & co. has reached without ever interrupting theirwork, even in the most difficult years.
    While two world wars and relentless socialand market upheaval hasproven too much for many other historic firms, in the case of Eberhard & Co. that simply hasn’t
    happened, thanks to successivegenerations of men and women who have been able to face every obstacle with determination
    and have known how to take advantage, in the long term, of every opportunity.

    For Eberhard & Co. the reasons to celebrate in 2017 were many: the anniversary of their founding in 1887,the huge acclaim for the collections dedicated to the event,
    the success of the ambitious project of providing the mythical Chrono 4 with a transparent sapphire bridge showcasing its patented internals, the device that makes it unique.
    Nonetheless, thereremains one more project, which today is set tomark the end of this amazingly successful year: This time it’s a book, telling the entire story of the Maison, the people who built it and those who made it into one of the most popular and highlycoveted watch brands. As a volume it is both a tribute and an opportunity to retrace and celebrate an extraordinary epic of entrepreneurship, family and industry, exploring three adventurous plots closely intertwined with the "great history" of the 20th century.

    The events relating to the foundation of the Maison, created by Georges-Lucien Eberhard in 1887 in the picturesque Swiss town of La Chaux-de-Fonds, embrace the modernity of a bold commercial
    and marketing strategy, combining worldwide distribution and the production of high-quality specimens for major stores all around the planet. Page after page, we see the evolution of the brand
    in an extraordinary gallery of mechanical wonders, from the earliest pocket models to the revolutionary chronographs, and on to the most up-to-date models for both men and women.

    At the centre of the story are three "exemplary histories" of exceptional men: a sailor, an airman, and a race car driver, whose fates becomeintertwined with those of a watch from the brand. These are Mario Rossetto, commander ofthe Finzi submarine during the Battle of the Atlantic in World War II, Publio Magini, pilot and navigator of the incredible Rome-Tokyo flight of 1942,and Tazio Nuvolari, one of the greatest legends of motor racing.

    The narrative of the Maison’s production, innovations,patents and the newer models is structured around four generations of audacious entrepreneurs, against a backdrop which includes the Belle
    Époque, the Great War and the depression of the 1920s, which did not spare Switzerland, which only apparently managed to escape the destinies of Europe.

    All this is recounted by the skilful pen of Giosuè Boetto Cohen, a writer andjournalist with the Corriere della Sera who has become very well known to the audience of RAI TV channels
    as the author and director of highly informative cultural programmes.

    This unique and charming work, published by Rizzoli in English and Italian, will be on sale in
    bookshops to the delight of enthusiasts and collectors, but also of all those who love the real stories at the heart of History.


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    HUBLOT Big Bang FERRARI Magic Gold :


    UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE MATERIAL THAT
    BONDED THE PARTNERSHIP WITHFERRARI THEBIG BANG FERRARI BECOMES INALTERABLE AND
    SCRATCH-RESISTANT IN MAGIC GOLD

    After 7 years of a close and productive collaboration between the two companies,Magic Gold—Hublot’s revolutionary materials fusing with the new
    design of the Big Bang Unico, restyled as per Ferrari’s design language.

    The outcome: A watch that delivers both form and function.

    A golden combination!

    In2012, the first watch that launched the HublotxFerrari collaboration was theBig Bang Ferrari, presented in a ground-breaking and patented
    alloy, Magic Gold.

    This gold is almost inalterable once formed and is still considered as the most resistant and hard metal in the world today,while retaining
    too its own qualities.

    Magic Gold is a fitting metaphor for the fusion of these two Houses that never cease to push the boundaries ofr esistance, creativity and
    innovation, accumulating superlatives while maintaining their own identity.
    An ultra-resistant solid gold Seven years after its creation, Magic Gold remains the only scratch-resistant 18-carat gold. Developed
    in partnership with EPFL (the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne) ,it is the hardest gold in the world.
    “Standard” 18-carat gold has a resistance of 400 Vickers and hardened steel 600 Vickers, whereas Magic Gold approaches
    1,000 Vickers. Magic Gold is entirely produced internally thanks to a high-tech foundry installed in theHublot Manufacture in Nyon, using
    a complex manufacturing process that “fuses” boron carbide and 24K gold.

    Big Bang Ferrari Magic Gold Limited to250 pieces, its 45-mm case and its bezel are cut in the most scratch-resistant solid gold ever conceived,
    which can only be altered by a diamond.The watch displays the new contours of the BigBang Unicomodel redrawn last year by theFerrari x Hublot team:
    A tachymeter-style minute counter and a date aperture in gear selector mode; A prancing horse at 6 o’clock and finally a second counter designed like an air extractor at 9 o’clock.

    The watch is strapped on to black alcantara sewn onto black rubber and displays the red top stitching of the Ferrari upholstery.
    Under the sapphire dial,the UNICO manufacture HUB1241 movement guarantees a power reserve of 72 hours and beats at the rhythm of 28,800 vibrations per hour.

    Seven years ago, Magic Gold and its patent offered the Ferrari partnership innovation and resistance., never short of ideas, the two allies may very well have surpassed excellence yet again.




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  19. Raidillon

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    Has anyone heard of a limited
    production of 50 watches Cartier F 50?
     
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    I'm afraid there's no Cartier for Ferrari F50.
    The Girard-Perregaux Co branding with Ferrari (from 1994 to 2004) began one year before the F50 was introduced (1995).
     
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    Thanks for sharing your pics.
    Let's check the watch :

    The crown is missing !
    Movement is an ETA/Valjoux 7750. Day disc says "dom", domenica in italian , ie sunday. Beware of chinese knockoff ETA/Valjoux 7750.
    Why "Jubilé" on the dial ? Jubilé means twenty five anniversary : 1995 (F50 was introduced in 1995)+25 =2020 ?
    No brand name on the caseback, no mention of a brand reference number.
    In my humble opinion, this is not a Cartier chronograph.
     
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    Thank You for the explanation, very interesting!
     
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    Can you post some pictures of the watch that came with the F50 and where one could find one for sale?

    Cheers, Mat
     
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    That is fantastic.
     

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