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  1. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

    Oct 24, 2006
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    Anyone care to comment on the brake feel and effectiveness in their FF?

    Mine are totally average feeling: very mushy, with a long pedal travel that literally feels like its going to the floor. especailly when you really USE them, full ABS from 125mph+ down to 50mph...and (yes they have been serviced by my dealer)
    . any solutions?
    not to mention the annoying 'bite' at slow speeds that makes it very tough to not jerk the car....
     
  2. Noblesse Oblige

    Noblesse Oblige F1 Veteran

    Nov 7, 2011
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    I have noticed the "bite" effect which is characteristic of ceramic rotors. I have wondered if the caliper prefill mechanism is working the way it should since I do not get that effect on my 458.

    But I have not experienced any issues with performance braking.
     
  3. FFMAC

    FFMAC Formula Junior

    Jul 20, 2012
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    Being carbon-ceramic, they do require proper warming up before working to their optimum, but I have to say I've never wanted for more in the performance stakes. I like the low speed bite!
     
  4. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    Jun 11, 2013
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    The fact that you are really using them is good- that's what Id recommend to help alleviate them. Could you have bad brake fluid?
     
  5. RickLederman

    RickLederman F1 Rookie
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    Sep 18, 2007
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    I don't think I notice any bite in mine. Standing on them hard at 130 mph there does seem to be a bit of excess travel but I think my Cali may be the same. Prefill happens every time you take your foot off the gas, and you can see the hit it takes to the electrical system if you turn on the dome light (my daughter would study on the way to school often so I would see the dome blink). And rear brakes are biased high along with being used for traction control so I had to replace my rear pads a few thousand miles ago, around 30K miles as I remember. Overall I am very happy with them. Not mushy at all under normal hard driving day to day.

    Rick
     
  6. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    come to think of it, i've never had a ferrari with great brake feel. maybe my 360cs but that was another lifetime ago...maybe my 16M actually.
    sounds like the FF brakes are fine but I just hadn't driven it in a while. i guess we'll put it under the 'they all do that' column...

    man, its hard getting out of a McLaren and expecting anything to work as well.
     
  7. Adrenalin Junkee

    Adrenalin Junkee Formula Junior

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    man you are hard charging tonight wolf, first the speciale vs 650 thread, and now this one! a couple posts in the laferrari, p1, 918 thread and youll be hitting on all cylinders!
     
  8. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    quick spin in the 12c fired me up
     
  9. Ferrari 360 CS

    Ferrari 360 CS F1 Veteran

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    This just amounts to trolling.....does your IRIS work properly or were you one of the lucky ones who didn't need constant updates due to the system crashing..
     
  10. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    i just wish the brakes in my ff worked like something on a $300k car should. the pedal travel is disconcerting.
     
  11. Ferrari 360 CS

    Ferrari 360 CS F1 Veteran

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    Maybe have the dealer look at them because I'd be surprised if excessive pedal travel is normal. Maybe fluid change and see if that brings about any improvement.
     
  12. Agpl

    Agpl Karting

    Jan 15, 2013
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    20k miles on my FF, best brakes of an road legal car I have driven and that includes 12c.
    pedal action and bite what I would expect no problem even under excessive high speed use.
     
  13. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf Formula 3

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    mine suk
    they must send the good brembos to england
    i'm going to have my tech look at them again. but 550,599,f12 brakes all very average so i think its the ferrari way.
     
  14. Entropy

    Entropy Formula 3
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    Jul 10, 2008
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    Brake fluid fresh?
    Brake system (fully) bled (including ABS valves cycled)?
    Pads in good shape?
    Pads bedded in properly?

    Pedal feel before/after a proper bleeding can be very different.

    Also, having lived through poorly bedded pads and properly bedded pads, the initial "bite" and overall stopping power is palpable.

    Last, as with any carbon/ceramic brake, they need heat to work; in some cases, you need a few rotations under braking to get into the target zone.
     
  15. reflex

    reflex Karting

    Nov 11, 2003
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    My FF feels fine, good pedal feel, little travel, you need to push them to stop if you are travelling though, but the car is not exactly light! Impressive non the less.
     
  16. Devonboy

    Devonboy Rookie

    Jun 7, 2014
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    Mine bite hard - a little travel but punch and effective
     
  17. mr_tony

    mr_tony Karting

    Jan 5, 2010
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    Great brakes here, and the car is super stable braking from high speed (ie 200mph) time after time. I'd get yours checked if they are mushy...
     
  18. London John

    London John Formula Junior

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    Mine are fine too.......exactly the same on the FF as the F12.
     

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