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FF - CCM brake wear light

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  1. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Has anyone had to replace rotors in the US recently? I did pads last year. The pads weren't that expensive.
     
  2. whoaitswee

    whoaitswee Rookie

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    My CCM light just came on as well. 2012 FF with 27k Miles on it. Taking it in to a local shop to check. This thread has been helpful.
     
  3. ttforcefed

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    last year my rear pads cost $1400 and $600 for installation, so $2k flat.
     
  4. whoaitswee

    whoaitswee Rookie

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    Is that the price OEM pads?
     
  5. ttforcefed

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    Yes i went oem
     
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  6. ANOpax

    ANOpax Formula 3

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    #31 ANOpax, Jan 10, 2025
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    Hi Wieger,

    Addressing your questions in turn;

    1 It seems reasonable that new pads will be required for the brakes when you replace the discs. This is standard practice for steel brakes so I suspect the logic in steel also applies in carbon.

    2 I don’t know if Kroymans will let you weigh one disc on each axle - but it’s worth a try. Ferrari quote a c.125k km disc life so based on your mileage, your discs should be c.70% worn rather than the >90% from the computer. I believe that even if you use engine braking when driving, the car still pre-loads the brake pads so they still wear even if you aren’t pressing the brake pedal. Ironically, Ferrari brakes wear less quickly when you are on the gas in CST off :D

    One other indicator for disc wear is to look at how many pad changes you have had already. I think that Ferrari allows two pad changes per disc (three pad sets in total per disc life on the axle). Kroymans told me my rear pads were done at 30k km so that’s one change. I’m now on 60k km and still the original set of front pads and the replacement rear pads.

    3 Sometimes Kroymans parts costs can be very competitive. Eurospares parts cost alone for the FF disc and pad replacement is c.€15k. So Kroymans are only charging you €3k in labour for an officially sanctioned replacement of all brakes. I appreciate that the cost difference by going with steel is attractive but it doesn’t seem worth it to me because you are changing an important aspect of how the car feels and drives. In addition, steel won’t look as good and will generate a lot more dust. If we break it down (no pun intended), the cost difference per km of CCM vs steel is an additional 14c per km if we assume you get another 90k km out of the new discs. I don’t think that’s too much to ask. If you don’t anticipate keeping the car for another 90k km, then the next owner will demand a price discount for a steel brake equipped FF which will probably be more than the money you saved by fitting steel brakes…

    In your shoes, I’d have the discs weighed (assuming that doesn’t cost too much) and go from there in terms of the decision to replace now or later. But one thing I would not do is replace with steel - it’s a false economy.
     
  7. LVP488

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    I would concur that when using the car only on the road, and achieving 90k km with one set of discs, going for steel (or anything other than OEM) is not really worth it.
    With track use the discs wear very quickly, which makes the steel proposition attractive (even while the steel discs actually wear faster), but not so much on the road.
     
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