One more for your statistics: my 2012 FF with 74000 km just had a PTU failure. A new PTU is being installed by the dealer, is this new one any better than the original??
I was wondering since the part number is different, maybe it has been improved in some way? -Wishful thinking…
Hello Thomas. I’m sorry to hear that you’ve had the PTU fail. We don’t think that Ferrari has upgraded the PTU but Furlongers have noted that the seals in later PTUs are of a different colour and manufacture. Hopefully, the new one will last longer than the last one did! Thank you for chiming in with your statistic - I’ll add it to the database.
Hey, I actually skipped the extended warranty, due to the fact that my insurance has coverage for engine and drivetrain. Luckily this was covered. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Soooooome insurance companies will offer what's called mechanical breakdown coverage which is basically similar to an extended warranty; you'll have to ask your agent to check if the carrier or under writer will do it
what wld be interesting to know is of the cars that had the ptu replaced, how many of them actually had lost gears or were they still shifting and the ptu was mixing clutch and gear oil
Mine was working just fine until it wasn’t… On the highway, doing 55 mph, all of a sudden a bunch of warning lights flash, and the main one seemed to be E-diff and “recovery”, whereupon the car wouldn’t go faster than about 30 mph. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Another quick update for you all. I've logged the Georgemaser and Thomas Engebrethse PTU failures. This brings the total number of failures on FChat to 24 of which 16 are FFs. In the last 12 months, six failures have been posted but two of them occurred in 2019. Of the remaining four, two are FF and two are Lusso. I won't bother to repost the charts but the r-squared for all cars now rises to 0.37 and if we exclude the Lederman car then it gets to 0.63. The average mileage and age at point of failure is 18,905 miles and 4.59 years with a standard deviation of 12,505 miles and 2.07 years. Ex-Lederman, the average mileage and age at point of failure is 17,350 miles and 4.64 years with a standard deviation of 10,650 miles and 2.11 years. Looking at the number of failures reported each year, there appears to be a downward trend but I suspect that this could be the result of fewer miles driven during lockdown so make of it what you will. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I wonder how accurate is that data, I know at least 5 PTU failures in this year. I don't know how many are GTC and how many are FF but for sure I can tell you 2 are GTC. To add more accuracy to your data 3 of those PTUs came from a dealer.
Thanks Jose. We know for a fact that the data on FChat is only a small sample of the wider world so a number of assumptions have had to be made when extrapolating the FChat members’ experience to the wider population of FFs and Lussos. The table above only tells us that these are the logged failures on FChat when a member flags that their PTU has failed. Apologies if that wasn’t clear.
We seem to have got the PTU independent shop repair re-engineering covered both Europe and the USA, But the 3rd gear sensor is still a huge problem, Reason being independent shops can’t resource the part kit because of Ferrari’s insistence on the t technician’s grade qualifications, meanwhile we have to pay through the nose for a fault that they have been aware of for years.
I've been thinking about this too. The last 4 cars I've seen service records for have either had the 3rd gear sensor done to the tune of $18k range (for 2012 MY) or had the DCT rebuilt for a bit more than that. I'm assuming the part kit goes beyond just the 3rd gear sensor and encompasses the DCT as a whole?
Hey guys, new to fchat. Picked up my first big boy car 12 days ago. 14 FF 20500 miles and have put about 3000 miles on since on an awesome road trip. However, I’m now showing all the codes after having it at home for a couple days (and once that cleared right away after restart at 21500); 4wd system failure, ESC failure, manettino failure, AVH system failure, wet mode, go to dealer. No leaks what so ever, heading to the 3rd party tomorrow. Car has also had all the DCT sensors replaced within the last year at Ron Tonkin in Portland. Car is out of Ferrari warranty but has a 3rd party warranty that I expect to get basically nothing from. I’ll report back, fingers are crossed it’s a wire or something simple but not holding my breath.
Fingers crossed you get good news, sounds like a hell of a road trip at least! Was your car's listing a public one? I've looked at so many and I'm trying to remember if there was a 2014 with 20k miles recently
That sounds like the issue every single owner has had at least once, when either the battery is weak, or you start the car without it finishing all its checks.
That’s good to hear. Left it on the charger for a day and no codes for the day, halfway through today doing some shorter drives (5-10minutes) it popped on again. I’ll replace the battery and see what’s what.
They are hyper sensitive to battery voltage. Keep it on a trickle charger if you plan to leave it for more than a couple of days. Hopefully that's all it is.
