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FF values. What's going on?

Discussion in 'FF/Lusso' started by puckybadger, Apr 18, 2018.

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  1. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    It's an amazing car, but even the last year with all the options will go below $150K. Soon. Listed FF's are not moving and their prices continue to be reduced. There are several low mileage cars with nice options and in desirable colors already below $150K. No stories cars. A 2016 FF is only two years old, so of course they are over $150K on nearly $400K stickers. Three to five years from now, all but super low mileage 2016's will be below $150K. There has never been an exception to the 2+2 depreciation curse, and the FF may fare worse than others, because the styling is so divisive.
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  2. TifosiUSA

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    cant wait to pick one of these up when theyre 75-80 grand in a few years
     
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  3. BaronM69

    BaronM69 Formula Junior
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    The prices for 2014 FFs are already below 150k....
     
  4. Gum12345

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    I just realized my garage isn't big enough. FF is 4inches wider than my BMW which it will replace. Garage already tight. So now I need a new house. Haha
     
  5. Laserguru

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    Just another form of "Ferrari Tax"

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  6. Gum12345

    Gum12345 Karting

    Jul 8, 2017
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    Exactly. Now the FF needs to go real cheap for the math to work. Very annoying as once I get an idea in my head in terms of a car to buy, I can't get ride of it. Alternatively, I need to rebuild / expand the garage. Had no idea how wide the FF is.
     
  7. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    Lol I'm in the process of building a spreadsheet of all my cars and the lengths of each one! So annoying.

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  8. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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  9. Andial

    Andial Formula Junior

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    You could always park it outside.
     
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  10. Gum12345

    Gum12345 Karting

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    I wouldn't do that. Looking into how I can squeeze out a few inches. May have all the side cabinets removed.
     
  11. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    no. i have almost 30k miles on my ff which has been garaged and i have nothing close to that - mine looks new
     
  12. otakki

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    Another option is to climb in through the back ;)
     
  13. MedinaCustomClassics

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    Nope G.Pepper, these are not the FFs I'm talking about and I'm not sure why people are using 2012-2013s with no panos and no options (no white ones I see) as their data samples. Yes, these older undesirable color and minimal optioned FF will go below $150K, I said that. What I also said was no 2014 and up, with high options and great color combos will go below $150K, they won't, and everyone that continues to doubt me either has to agree, or show me an example I'm talking about under $150K.........ain't happenin' brofessor
     
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  14. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    What is a desirable FF when it comes to option then? Pano, forged wheels (debatable), shields, diamond seats? High power audio?

    Many very nice FFs from 2014 to 2015 with very low miles in the $150-175k range. With warranty left. Imagine how low they will go when that runs out.
     
  15. ttforcefed

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    Ummm it's pretty well known that the highly optioned cars were the early ones and in 2013 or 2014 Ferrari actually had to lower the msrp by adding in options as standard. All FFs are going to 100k or whatever. Gonna hit 28k miles on my 2012 which has msrp of almost 400k. Wld be lucky to get 110k trade in value but that's the game.


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  16. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Blah, blah, blah. I've been following 2+2's since the 70's and I've never been wrong. Won't be wrong this time either.
     
  17. MedinaCustomClassics

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    Yes, pano roof, front lift, shields, adaptive headlights (not diamond seats) and wheels don't really matter. Yes, high power audio (to a lesser degree). Color is important too. White is top and no funky colored interior. Carbon Fiber definitely helps.

    Show me a 2015 with very low miles (again, with the right color combo and options) under $150K? Won't find it bro.
     
  18. MedinaCustomClassics

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    Right, you've got a 2012. I'm not talking about 2012 or 2013s. I pointed out not to use the ones I called out as examples but everyone keeps using them to support their incorrect case :)
     
  19. MedinaCustomClassics

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    Blah Blah Blah, is that your response to facts? I've been following 2+2s as long as you sir and you're wrong on this one. But that's ok, being wrong is human. Chill.
     
  20. AshAP

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    Isn’t this just a matter of personal taste? The FF looks great in just about every colour way. White wouldn’t be my 1st choice, canna di lucile or nero daytona would be my preference with cuio and Daytona seats. Not bothered about the sound system, I have a Linn Klimax at home and in the car the V12 is the only soundtrack I want. Personally I don’t like the look of carbon fibre although I know it’s an important option. The pano roof isn’t a deal breaker for me either although I’d prefer it.


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  21. ttforcefed

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  22. Caeruleus11

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    Beautiful example.
     
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  23. MedinaCustomClassics

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    ttforcefed and Caeruleus11, what are you taking about "good example"? Not an example of what I'm talking about. It's the right year (2014+) but it has low options, no lift, no pano, no adaptive headlights and it's still $170K. Remember, the claim (incorrect but floating around out there) is that my example (the year, color & options I have described) will fall below $150K? This is not evidence of that. Keep trying, hahaha
     
  24. ttforcefed

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    ur right. 2015 low mile well optioned FFs are 300k all day long
     
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  25. ml321

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    Given how paranoid US buyers seem to be about mileage, it might actually make sense for me to buy one and import to germany once mine hits 150-200k km (or has corroded/rusted into a little heap of nothing)
    Probably can then pick a 40-50k miles car up for buttons in the US (say in 4 years or so) and drive it until it falls apart
     

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