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FFs and Batteries?

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  1. Scout123

    Scout123 Formula Junior

    Nov 1, 2017
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    I have a 2013 458 Spider and am considering getting an FF as a daily. I had researched this car in the past on this site to research what to look for re: ongoing issues. The battery came up a lot.

    So, if the OEM is replaced with say a quality Interstate batter, does this car still suck the life out of the battery if it sits for 7 days off a trickle charger?

    My issue is leaving the car at the airport for say 5-7 days and not wanting to come back to a dead battery.
     
  2. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
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    Paul
    I have an Interstate (MTX-49/H8) in my 2015 FF. I don't know if it is the car or the battery, but I have left the car several times without a tender for well over one week with no issue. On the other hand, my wife's 2018 Panamera can't sit for more than 4 days, and there's no parasitic drain. :(
     
  3. ANOpax

    ANOpax Formula 3

    Jul 1, 2015
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    You won’t have problems leaving the car for 7 days. After 14 you might. 21 days is asking for trouble and 28 is a definite non starter.
     
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  4. Scout123

    Scout123 Formula Junior

    Nov 1, 2017
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    Thanks. Weird about the Panamera.
     
  5. Carl A

    Carl A Formula Junior
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    Feb 11, 2021
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    I have been using my trickle every day recently and it cured all of the issues I had with start-up errors.

    Yesterday, bad storm on the way so I unplug it from mains, throw in boot but leave plugged into socket in boot.

    This morning, batter is completely dead. Red battery warning on dash, ffs.

    Now I presume I have to work out how to jump whilst not damage my car.
     
  6. dustywusty

    dustywusty Formula Junior
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    Jan 11, 2017
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    I replaced the battery in my FF with the antigravity one and never looked back. Will do with my F12 as well, it’s just such a nice product.
     
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  7. Scout123

    Scout123 Formula Junior

    Nov 1, 2017
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    Which battery did you get from them for your FF?
     
  8. Scout123

    Scout123 Formula Junior

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  9. Nefarious

    Nefarious Rookie

    Apr 6, 2014
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    Antigravity H8/Group-49 Lithium Car Battery - 80 Ah × 1
    Antigravity Battery Tracker (LITHIUM) × 1
     
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  10. haithman

    haithman Formula Junior

    Aug 12, 2004
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    Did you take to dealer to install? Assume if I install myself I have to deal with errors somehow?
     
  11. cali2012

    cali2012 Karting

    Apr 27, 2020
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    Giulio
    No errors at all, I did mine in 15 minutes. The problem is to remove the old one, super heavy. The new one is super light and no need to remove oil cap etc etc... BE sure to sit well in the terminals! they can be loose so be sure that they do not rotate before you put the battery back in.
     
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  12. Eric360

    Eric360 Formula 3

    Jan 11, 2010
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    Batteries generally degrade in all cars over time. But they wreak havoc in Ferraris when they are 3-4 years old it seems. So whatever FF you buy, I'd put in a new battery (aftermarket or otherwise) and it should be good to go for a while. When I got my FF, I asked the dealer to change the battery, but they convinced me it was running good voltage, no need. Well, 6 months later, it died. And the car couldn't even be jumped. Had to flat bed it to the dealer.
     
  13. jblaw

    jblaw Karting

    May 20, 2016
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    You did yours in 15 mins!?! How! I find them impossible to get out!!!
     
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  14. cali2012

    cali2012 Karting

    Apr 27, 2020
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    after you removed the heavy original one to insert the new ion lithium one was easy. No need to remove oil cap at all or windshield wiper engine. Just cable zip tie out of your way what is not need it. The battery and his thermic protection will slide in slowly but easy.
     
  15. ANOpax

    ANOpax Formula 3

    Jul 1, 2015
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    No need to remove the windshield wiper motor or oil cap on a LHD FF when changing the battery. Perhaps it’s different for RHD cars?

    I’ve changed the battery in my FF three times now (one change was due to a warranty return) and now that I’m practised at it, it only takes half an hour.
     
  16. dgoldenz94

    dgoldenz94 Formula Junior

    Apr 13, 2020
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    Antigravity battery is the way to go. Worth the money.
     
  17. ANOpax

    ANOpax Formula 3

    Jul 1, 2015
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    Lithium is more convenient if you can’t (or don’t want to) change the battery yourself. In some cases, lithium also has the nice party trick of being able to provide an emergency boost to get you going. I’ve yet to see any real world reports of lithium lifetime in actual use but they should last a lot longer than Sealed lead acid (SLA) as lithium cell life is less temperature sensitive and lithium cycle life is almost double that of SLA for the same depth of discharge. However, Antigravity only warrants the battery for 3 years and claims that their batteries have an expected life of 4-5 years. That isn’t much better than SLA :confused:

    Lithium batteries are typically 7-8x more expensive than the SLA equivalent. Given that a typical SLA lasts 2-5 years, the lithium equivalent needs to run for 14-40 years to make economic sense. But I guess running a Ferrari has never been about economic sense :D
     

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