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Fiat Dino Spyder at RM auction

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  1. retired

    retired Formula Junior

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    Anyone have any info on the FIAT Dino LOT 190 at RM Auction Amilia Island??
     
  2. PG1964

    PG1964 Formula Junior

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    It's one of the first lot, with body and engine (i didn't understand why is gold now) totally restored. The correct script on the back (Fiat Dino), the sticker on the hubcaps and the ashtray are missing. The exhausts aren't original.
     
  3. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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    RM says restored. When you look close you can see small amounts of corrosion and rust in almost all the interior pictures. The dash looks like it has seen better days. Makes me wonder what type of restoration or maybe they left it outside a lot with the top down. I would guess it's a 20 footer. Pretty typical for these cars, few are restored correctly.
     
  4. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    I am here at Amelia, saw the car, wanted to bid, BUT (hold on) sold for 90t $ plus 10% !!!

    Car hase a restoration, yes, many years ago. I me measured the paint, ist a lot to much paint ...

    Also, no invoices, book, Tools, nothing.

    What a Price for a Dino, think it was the highest ever paid,...

    Dinos are coming ????
     
  5. labcars

    labcars Formula 3
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    Two quick things....

    That car was wrong in many ways. Beyond what has already been noted, the console is way wrong and the steering wheel is aftermarket.

    Secondly, yes, prices are coming up, but mostly for the 2.4L cars. $90k plus vig for a 2.0L car in that condition is insane. I don't believe that this result in any way reflects the market for 2.0L cars.
     
  6. philt68

    philt68 Formula Junior

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    So where ARE prices for a nice 2.4 then?
     
  7. PG1964

    PG1964 Formula Junior

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    I agree, maybe someone was obliged to satisfy a daughter's whim....
    I don't know the US market, actually, but i think 90K is a fair price.
     
  8. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    No way!
     
  9. PG1964

    PG1964 Formula Junior

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    As i told before, i don't know the US market actually.
    $90k (69.300 euros) is a standard price here for a 2.0 spider and €90k (117,000 dollars) for a 2.4 spider. The Bertone coupès are more economic, of course.
    Anyway, i understood your disappointment because that car wasn't at its best.
     
  10. velocetwo

    velocetwo F1 World Champ

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    One auction doesn't make the market especially when it was a average example. I would say prices are going up wait till a good one comes to market then you will see some action!

    IMO if a 246 Dino can do 300 there is no reason why a 246 Fiat Dino shouldn't do 150K.
     
  11. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    #11 Ferrari 308 Vetro, Mar 10, 2013
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    1967 Fiat Dino 2.0 Spider 65.000 EUR
    See all the Images for this Car Exceptional Fiat Dino 2.0 Spider for sale near Brussels, Belgium. A well-known car with a lot of history, perfectly maintained regardles of cost, with only 48.000km. Very rare original optional leather seats in pristine condition.

    An expensive engine + gearbox out of the car rebuild was recently performed, with also carbs and distributor overhaul. Brand new stainless steel exhaust, including superb headers (manifolds). Very nice paint, perfect chrome, new Pirelli's, perfect top with brand new rear window.

    A perfect driver with superb engine/gearbox, very powerful brakes, quick steering, rattle-free suspension. the car needs nothing!

    No timewasters please!

    1967 Fiat Dino 2.0 Spider for sale: Anamera
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  12. Iceblue

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    #12 Iceblue, Jul 22, 2013
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    I just purchased a nice Fiat Dino 2.4 from Europe this month. It not the sort of car that comes up and you can sleep and wait for a long time. There are buyers, mostly europeans.

    In my case, I took a huge gamble! But the car also has great provenance with lot's of documentation. Original italian registration, invoices dating back from the 1973.

    This car is in great demand in Germany and Japan.

    It is true that this car is way under value at the moment, specially in the US.

    The car is pretty rare that none has ever seen one to truly admire it. Unless you live out west, you might see one at an Italian club meet.

    Let's face it, there are only around ( 25 ) 2.4 Fiat Dino in the USA and around 400 Fiat 2.0

    I honestly think that this car is just now getting some attention and will start picking up.

    Like a previous member mentioned, if there is super example coming at auction RM or Gooding. These 2.0 could bring north of 120K and 2.4 will bring 150 -175 in the next 3 years to come.

    Remember top goes down the price goes up!

    Every one wants a Ferrari Dino, including myself. However the prices have gone to far too fast leaving collectors and enthusiast looking for the next best thing.

    I can't see why some one would pay 450K for a Chair and Flair Dino?

    Lets wait and see where the dust settles.
    My intuition tells me that this little rare convertible will go up in value at a nice steady pace.
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  13. sjmst

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    Looking to get near 100 for pristine examples.
     
  14. TheMayor

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    To me, good Fiat Dino spiders are worth about 50-60K. Anything more is just speculation because of the name.
     
  15. Napolis

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    #15 Napolis, Jul 25, 2013
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    Restoring one properly is 75K.

    I've been offered 200K for mine.
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  16. TheMayor

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    I was referring to unrestored, which most are. Very very few are in the shape of your car (which is astounding).

    Let's face it... if it weren't for the very fashionable "Dino" name, the car would just be another interesting Fiat as it has been all these years. And, a lot of cars out there are worth less than the restoration costs. How many collectors lose money on cars they restore? Plenty.
     
  17. Iceblue

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    I was wondering if the Fiat Dino had stamped numbers on front hood and rear deck lid.
    I am looking to see if there are any ID that would tie back body number?
    Any pictures and where to look specially hidden numbers.

    Olivier
     
  18. philt68

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    I'm not sure you can really separate it out like that-the 2.4 is a pinnifarina designed, Ferrari engined and assembled car-beautiful by any standard, and great to drive-the only perceived downside are the four letters on the bonnet-where it not for the fiat badging, and our general myopic inability to see beyond branding, it would be a much more expensive car...(of course, I say this because I have one...) :)
     
  19. TheMayor

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    It's a wonderful car and I was looking several years ago to get one myself. But, is it worth over $100K now?

    I don't think so. Then again I don't think 246 Dino Gts are worth over 200 grand and I had one.

    5 years ago I saw a driver in LA for 18 grand. I passed because it needed too much attention. Most of these were ridden hard and put away wet.
     
  20. Iceblue

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    I also agree. I can't imagine a 246 gt in the 350k range. That is nuts!
    Why not simply buy a Ferrari 330 GTC for that price?

    What is really going on here is that just about every vintage cars have gone up.
    For some of us we have been the game since 15 years ago.

    For example one could buy a Porsche speedster 1959 for around 25k in 1998
    Now they are are north of 200k

    That same rule applies to the fiat dino.
    They where once in the low teens just a few years ago, now you are lucky to find a nice example for less than 100k.


    As per the name Fiat vs Ferrari.
    I love it that it is a Fiat. It's Italian it's nice and its rare.
    If that car that car was a Ferrari model xxx 2400 the car would be in the 300-400 k if not more.
     
  21. philt68

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    I'm not sure why everyone thinks the 246 Dino prices are so crazy..is a gts chairs and flares worth 400k? Perhaps not, but then again, the 246 is in my opinion one of the most beautiful ferraris ever made-it's got to be in the top five-so why wouldn't it be worth a lot? Only 6 cylinders? I'm not sure that's reason enough to mark it down..granted, 2300 or so were made-but aesthetically, it's a great deal better looking than a 330gtc-that's an elegant car, but not downright gorgeous like a nice 246 gt...are prices inflated? Yes, but what isn't these days?

    (Just because I own one doesn't make me biased in the least, of course!) :)
     
  22. Napolis

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    #22 Napolis, Jul 26, 2013
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    Nope.

    The PF design is very nice.

    They are great drivers.

    They can fit a lot of luggage even kids in the back.

    They are mini Daytona Spyders.

    The 2.4's were made by Ferrari at the Ferrari Factory.

    2.4's with great resto's start at 150K.
     

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