Fiats made by Ferrari

The only model that springs to mind is the Thema, these were not built by Ferrari but Ferrari did supply a detuned 308 engine for these cars.

The ultimate Thema, the 8.32 was built Lancia's S. Paolo plant in Turin,it used a 3.0 L Ferrari Dino V8. This engine was based on that of the Ferrari 308 qv with some being assembled by Ducati from castings made at Maranello and featured a traditional V8 split-plane crankshaft rather than the flat-plane used in Ferrari cars. It produced 215 bhp (160 kW) and was capable of 149 mph (240 km/h) in its Series 1 incarnation. The Series 2 engine was slightly detuned to 205 bhp (153 kW) and was slightly slower.

The car offered good performance (though the Turbo version was quicker than the Series 2 from 0 to 100 km/h) and excellent refinement, including a luxurious wood-and-leather interior by Poltrona Frau complete with the same luxury equipment as LX versions of the model. Unfortunately, a price tag of £40,000 (or more) in Britain, and the fact that only left hand drive versions were produced, limited its appeal, with only 9 being officially sold there. It was even a rare sight on Italian roads, with just 3,537 built between 1986 and 1991.
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The Lancia Stratos in the 70's used a Ferrari V6 2.4 liter engine.
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There is a difference between a Fiat made by Ferrari and a Fiat with a Ferrari engine. The Lancias are the latter. I'm not sure there any Fiats MADE by Ferrari; other than Dinos.

 

That engine looks like it was shoehorned into the bay; looks like a nightmare to work on.

 

I agree mate, and i think the servicing costs on these Fiats was the same as the equivalent 308 model.

 

and now of course all new maserati have ferrari heart.....and the alfa c8 too

 

They are in fact the same car, the body designed by Pininfarina, but have nothing to do with Ferrari.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Dino

 

How about Ferrari's built by someone else? The Lancia D50 was rebadged as a Ferrari when Lancia dropped out of Grand Prix competition.

 

FIAT Dino were NOT built by Ferrari - engine design came from Ferrari, but built by FIAT. Lancia Thema cam covers say "Lancia by Ferrari"

 

Would you like a t-stand for that second swing?

 

Wikipedia is not a scholarly resource: No cited references.

..."they also manufactured these cars."

The "Sportivo de Pininfarina Special edition by Ferrari"? No one, it's specious, and it's "spider".

Pininfarina continued production of the 124 Spider as a Pininfarina. Similarly, Bertone continued production of the X 1/9.

They didn't, so they aren't.

 

The Lancia Thema shared a platform (and very similar body shape) with the Opel Vectra and Saab 9000.

The Saabs had only four cylinders, but were turbocharged. Even with four fewer cylinders, engine access could be difficult in the Saab, as I can attest as a former owner. I can only imagine that the Ferrari-powered Lancia was doubly difficult to work on.

 

Karen,
According to the Mike Morris book (FIAT DINO/Ferrari by another name), all of the 2.4 litre Fiat Dinos were "Constructed at Ferrari's Maranello factory...."

Referring to the 2.4 litre Fiat Dino Coupe and Spyder, "Fiat therefore made the decision to introduce the new cars in 1969, and in order to produce them built new buildings and production lines at Ferrari's Maranello factory, near Modena."

Another observation, "By the middle of 1971 the Ferrari Maranello factory was employing some 800 people. Of those, about 620 were engaged in Ferrari production and racing activities, and the remaining 180 worked on the Fiat Dino Spyder and Coupe assembly lines...." "Production in the plant during July was running at about 15 Fiat Dino Spyders and Coupes, 3 Ferrari Dinos, 3 Daytonas and 3 365Gts a day."

These are but a few extracts from the book...it's an interesting read.
Cheers,
Coop

 

Coop, I stand corrected, thank you! Seems strange that they ended up building a new line when the original reason they started out as FIATs was Maranello didn't have the line capacity... Cheers!

 

As we all know.....Dino was the affectionate term for Enzo's only legitimate son, Alfredo. Piero Ferrari was by Enzo's erstwhile secretary/concubine who had his name legally changed to Ferrari and is currently a 10% shareholder in Ferrari.

Dino isn't given enough credit! He was trained as an engineer in Switzerland and was more interested in 4 and 6 cylinder engines while his doting father was for evermore enamoured with the 12 cylinder. Though Alfredo died of in 1956 at the age of 21 of muscular dystrophy, he actually had, years prior, completed the initial design work on the engine that would become the 2.0 liter, quad cam, all alloy, 160HP engine. Giacosa and/or Lampredi (who also designed the Fiat 124 Spider/Coupe engines) took these designs and made the final design. In 1964 Ferrari turned to Chief Engineer Giacosa to contract with Fiat to produce the engine to meet homologation requirements for Formula 2, there was no way he could produce 500 engines in order to use it in a race car, but Fiat could. Ferrari did many contracted agreements with Fiat, well before the first investment from the Agnellis, and they were always keen to work with Mr. Ferrari. And they also were able to release the Fiat Dino in 1966, the Spider was designed by Pininfarina and was released first, then several months later Bertone presented the Dina Coupe, very different designs with the Spider showing the more curvy work that would grace the 206 Dino GT that was first released in 1968, two years after the Fiat version.

The Fiat Dinos were built by Fiat in Torino until 1969, then were built by Ferrari's Maranello works with many upgrades. The engine was punched to 2418cc, making 180HP, fully independent suspension replaced live rear axle, as well as a new a five-speed ZF gearbox. This is the same 2.4 liter as in the 246 Dino GT, albeit in different tune. Production continued until January 1973 with 7,651 total cars produced. This vastly exceeded the homologation requirement for F2. Fiat Dino's are worth finding, though very rare, because even in cruddy condition you've got a Ferrari engine in there and they can be found cheap in some places. The Spyder version is more desirable but it's worth noting that even though the coupe was designed by Bertone they weren't 'wedge crazy' yet. Marcello Gandini was working at Bertone at the time as he had designed the Miura, which wasn't a wedge car. Gandini designed the Bertone Carabo in 1967 (based on an Alfa 133 chassis) that ushered in the wedge design. But Gandini did not design the Fiat Dino Coupe.

The Dino 166/206 were the first racing versions of the engine. Pininfarina showed the landmark 166 Dino Speciale at the 1965 Paris Auto show, this car became the 206 Dino GT and later revised to the 246 Dino GT.

With this engine, Ferrari ate the competition alive, even beating the larger 12 cylinder Ferrari's in hill-climb events. They did get homologation, but it wasn't a new engine at all, it was, as Winston Goodfellow says in "Ferrari: Road and Race" "a wolf among sheep." Interesting though, that the Old Man would soon turn away from most other mediums and focus on F1.

Historical points from this story: Enzo had great affection for his son and wasn't the cold-hearted man many make him out to be, his son might have become a true constructor like his father and was a serious engineer, and mostly.....the Old Man would go to great lengths to go racing.

June 18, 1969 Ferrari (who had recently purchased Scaglietti coachworks) was 40% owned by Fiat. He could go racing all he wanted.