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Finally! got passed the plataeu

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  1. smg2

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    Well after weeks of punishing workouts i bested my old 325lb bench with a 350lb. i managed 4 reps before i had to rack it. i need to stay in a mental zone or the thought of dropping that wieght will get you. it was hard staying focused as i had my wife snap a few pics for my log book.

    i warmed up with 15 reps of 275 then two sets of 5reps of 315 then 1 set of 5reps of 325 then the 1 set of 4reps of 350. i know i could go heavier, but without spotters it's not a good idea. now to work on getting my deadlift upto 350 it's at 275 right now. but at least the bent over rows are 315. deadlifts are brutal for me at 6'5" and mostly leg.

    olympic bar, 2.5/10/25/35/35/45-----------45/35/35/25/10/2.5

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  2. Mario Gonzalez

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    may I suggest Sears white latex paint for them walls.
     
  3. smg2

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    naah, i need to locate the studs fer hanging junk.
     
  4. Alex_V

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    Quite impressive, all I got is about 200!

    Keep it up and go for 400!
     
  5. Evan.Fiorentino

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    i can't bench crap but i can leg press 600 lbs which is good for only being 14 years old.
     
  6. J.P.Sarti

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    I really like the Hammer Strength equipment at Golds Gym, you can go as heavy as you want as it mimics the bench press but you are not trapped if you can't lift it, its easy to go to failure without hurting yourself. You can easily tear a shoulder or elbow doing a regular bench press IMO.


    Also been taking this energy drink called Redline from GNC, its the only stuff thats worked since they took away ephedrine HCL and it improves performance.
     
  7. smg2

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    i've tried alot of of stuff over the yrs, not 'juice' though. and in the end just protein and balls to the walls workouts works the best, currently i do 6 days a week. lots and lots of water. ephedra was great for energy when you're burning the candle at both ends but wrecks havic with your recovery time.
     
  8. smg2

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    if you are not familiar with the proper form, yes you can do some serious harm. to go heavy on the bench requires strong shoulders. i do alot of shoulder excercises to make sure i do not hurt myself. free weights have a great advantage of recruting stabilizer muscels to perfrom a lift. machines are good for isolation when you want to define a particular muscle but if all you have done i nthe past is work on machines, switching to free weights will take some attention and less weight as a sloppy lift will hurt you.
     
  9. LMP234

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    Personal Bests:

    Bench - 275
    Squat - 455
    Deadlift - Mid 400's, cant remember

    Weight - Between 175-190 depending on how in/out of shape I am, or if I'm cutting weight for a sport.
     
  10. J.P.Sarti

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    Hammer Strength are not machines with cables, they basically are free weight machines designed with the same movements as doing free weight exercises, they are great for going extremely heavy to failure, I still use free weights such as heavy dumbells with incline/decline for chest, free weights are good for balance training as well.

    I have built my shoulders well, infact 1 day a week is solely dedicated to them only but as I said its easy to injure yourself going heavy on free weights alone as I have done it before and it takes forever to heal if you continue to work out and sets you back quite a bit, these newer technology machines help reduce risk of that.
     
  11. MrScarface

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    You work out 6 days a week? You're over training. No wonder you can't make gains.
     
  12. smg2

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    i'm not knoking the machine, i do know they are not cable systems. but they do limit your range to a specific motion, hence the lack of stabalizing muscle groups. for me i prefer the complete freedom as it requires muscle groups that you would use in most every day activities.
    if there is a free weight excercise that is prone to injury it's the dumbel fly, as to far of an extension with improper form can tear and cause rotator cuff injuries. my shoulder workout is, laterals normal, front & reverse, presses, shrugs and lying side. three times a week. not something i would ever recomend a beginer even try, it's taken me 12yrs to work up to these supersets and heavy days. i do a double split routine, morning & evening. usually ends up to be 3hrs a day.
    boy putting that down in print makes it seem crazy! no wonder my wife thinks i'm nuts.
     
  13. smg2

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    double split routine, any less and i'm antsy and gains come even slower. i'm blessed with the ability to recover fast. i was taking my time building back up to heavy weight. i took 6 months off from working out between my dad passing and buying another house. i've been back at it now for 6mnths, i started at 205lb bench and didn't move fast to develop the other groups evenly. to go from 205 ~ 350 in 6mnths is not easy, thats 145lbs or 6lbs a week every single week.

    i usually will add weight and run it for 2wks then move up again, sometimes i don't increase the weight just the reps and cut down the rest time between sets.
     
  14. Mbutner

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    Very sorry to hear about your dad.

    - I must reiterate the other posters comments about overtraining. Take it to 5 days and try to REALLY push yourself farther than you thought possible. (While being safe of course. I mean mentally push yourself to do more reps, etc. but in a slow and safe manner). Do this and you will see amazing results.
     
  15. Stephanie

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    Don't ya love that?

    I passed the plateau this week too, I lost 4 lbs in a week. :D
     
  16. BigDog

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    go heavy with low reps!!!

    drink lots of water, sleep alot, eat alot and clean


    as far as supplements.... only thing that works is protein and.... ;)
     
  17. smg2

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    thank you,
    i've got 4 more weeks of mass then i'll cut back to more reps and sets for only 5 days a week and more cardio. one of my problems is haven't been one for the 'look' not concerned about it. so this style of lifting for sculpting the body is new and frustrating. sure i can lift heavy and often but for me it doesn't define, i'll increase mass at thats about it. when i go a to more reps and supersets it'll start the definition and 'look' of bodybuilding, but man is it boring.
     
  18. J.P.Sarti

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    Keep in mind with body sculpting certain muscles respond differently to weight training.

    Small muscles such as tricepts/ bicepts/shoulders need high reps to grow, you must feel a burn, going heavy usually doesn't work, big muscles such as legs chest you can go heavy and low reps.

    Everyone is also kind of different for what works but the basics usually are true, proper form is the most important so even though you may be going heavy the desired muscle is not doing the work another one is, I see alot of guys just banging heavy weights every day but get nowhere in size or defination in the gym.

    Building your body right is alot of work the average person could never appreciate, lots of pain and lousy tasteless food as well plus its expensive.But as someone once told me years ago before I had a Ferrari you may have a Ferrari in the parking lot but who knows it, build your body into a Ferrari and take it with you everywhere you go.
     
  19. Gilles27

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    I've been to the gym once in the last 6 months!!! Between a pregnant wife and starting a business, it's fallen by the wayside. I've never been a power lifter but always like to stay in shape, and this is killing me. That's great that you got past the plateau
     
  20. callaides

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    Haha..."overtraining." Different people require different individual workout regimens, and sometimes schedules can vary. Imagine that.

    Everyone's an expert.
     
  21. LMP234

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    I always lift with the philosophy of 'shocking' the body.

    Essentially your body is adapting to accomodate the work load being placed on it. So if you stick the the same routines/reps/exercises and just simply increase the weight. Eventually the body will get used to it and not grow as quickly.

    So sometimes, take a week off. Do a month of high reps/medium weight for legs. Do 2 weeks of 'hanging' (from a bar) sit ups while holding a heavy weight 2x each week. Take a month and do 2 workouts a week involving 'negatives'.

    Basically, routine is good, but always be looking to throw something in there to make your body think: WTF!? It helps you get passed those barriers, and fights the boredom of routine.
     
  22. richard_wallace

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    Nice gains for sure... Congrats and keep it up!

    As someone who powerlifted in my past. I do have one bit of advice that is worth it weight in steel...

    Do not be doing that kind of weight (specifically new levels like you are going to move to) without the proper use of a spotter (with the appropriate strength).

    The only story I can tell you how important and potentially injury preventing it can be. I wittnessed at a meet - in my 185 lb weight group a guy doing around 375 on his first lift of 3 (after warming up) - he pulled a muscle in his tricep in his right arm... Fortunate for him he had the spotters right there and other than a big bounce and a cracked sternum - he was fine. Could have been really really bad - if he were doing that at home.

    I would bet your better half would not be able to get you out of trouble until it is too late and serious injury. And you are probably thinking - I could just tip the weights since you didn't have clips on - if you pulled or rolled your bi or tri - you would really be helpless. And your bench does not have much clearance on either side and would get potentially hung if you had to tip to get out.. Might want to re-angle the bench so if you need to tip you have a little more room to ditch.

    Just would hate to see you get hurt and have to sit on the sidelines healing for 3 months if you had an accident or worse.

    My 2 cents anyway - I am old and probably too cautious now more than when I was younger - so take it for what it is worth.

    Rich
     
  23. Steve R

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    It's funny....when I clicked on the pics I expected to see a huge bar loaded with HUGE amounts of disc to stack upto 350 pounds. It's just deceptive. That's a lot of weight, congrats! Pump the BCAA's & creatine!

    You may also want to consider a 3-way with another hot chick in the bedroom. Not sure it'll help with lifting more weight....but ya never know till ya try it and I wouldn't want to see you take any chances. :)
     
  24. LMP234

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    Sound advice.
     
  25. smg2

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    100% agree with you, i won't be going past 350 without spotters. probably should use them now but since i workout at home when the schedule fits me thats a bit difficult. i have tested the dip drop to the side incase i need it, and it'll work but it is close. yrs ago i had a close call, i was benching at the time only 225 and on my last rep i decided to cheat one more and the bar got stuck at the bottom so it was resting on my chest. since i had clips on the bar i couldn't roll out from under it so i had to roll it down my ribcage and torso then pick it up. bruised a few ribs, from then on i have stopped using clips and no longer go to failure.

    one of the reasons i'm not so gung ho about going real heavy is i don't know anybody who'd be willing or even able to spot that kind of weight, and i'm also adverse to going to gyms. so little steps along the way. one idea i've had is to weld up a frame for eithier side of the bench that would only let the bar drop to within a inch of my chest so if god forbid something went wrong it would fall to the frame and stop. maybe nows the time to start welding.
     

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