Fiorano Handling Package on 575M or not?

It was about 20 years ago, so I would need some research in old files to find not really relevant information

 

Regarding pads:

The OE Ferodo FM1000 on the 575 and 512TR.
Porterfield R4-S on the BMW which shared the front caliper with the 512TR and the rear caliper with the 575. Not sure if the R4-S is made in the size for the 6 piston calipers but I know its made in the F50 and rear sizes.
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If your asking $$$, the 355mm F/345mm rear are NLA now. Good luck finding any let alone for the previous market rate (around $8000-$9500 pre-COVID). I do have the core parts to make one last 345mm rear kit if someone really wants as I bought all of Brembo's left over stock when they went NLA.

Brembo still offers the larger 380mm Front/Rear kit but I think that goes for a bit more $$$. Never optioned the price out for it as I wanted the period correct 355mm version.

 

You need 19" wheels for the 380 mm rotors, I believe.

 

Actually you don't, I had standard wheels on my 575.
Regarding fitting 380mm to the rear (as seems to be the only available option now), I wonder what it would do on the front/rear brake balance (even though apparently it's 6-pot front and only 4-pot rear).

 

I did all the calculations for the different combinations when I was trying to decide.

Long story (and a lot of math) short: both the 355mm Front 6 piston / 345mm Rear 4 piston and the 380mm front 6 piston and 380mm rear 4 piston brake biases are excellent for the 575.

You can even get away with the the OEM 330mm Front / 345mm Rear 4 piston setup and keep the brake balance very good, though you must use the C caliper and not the P caliper to do so. This is only true for the 550/575. The 456 requires the P caliper rear 345mm setup to work w the OEM 330 front.

 

I did the same recently, MSW steering ECU/rear sway bar and now on the hunt for the rear springs. I also found 18 OEM Barchetta wheels, its now mounted with HE spacers. Did you install the ECU, bar and springs at the same time or installed the springs later? Be curious how much of a difference the drive is with and w/o the springs. I will say just having the ECU and bar, the drive is night and day from stock.

 

I honestly think the springs are the least important part. The swaybar and steering controller being the most important (add suspension controller if you have an early 575).

It shoulds like they made another batch of rear springs (HGTC) so they should be available even if vastly overpriced.

H&R makes aftermarket springs though I dont have their specifications

 

My bad, I actually had 355/6-pot front and 345/4-pot rear
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148648987/

 

Fronts: $4895 & Rear: $4195

380mm rotors under an 18" wheel is common (Murcielago with CCB), but it is tight and will not fit under all 18" wheels. There are cutaways for measuring the brakes within your wheels to ensure clearance. Feel free to message me and I can send you the PDF.

I am running the same fronts on my Viper (and for lack of a novel, stock 4 piston Brembo retained on the rear) and it is a dramatic change in braking performance. Definitely do not NEED the rear kit, but it is nice for reducing rotational mass and a stronger bite.

 

I ran 135171 with 396 mm ceramic rotors and 6 pot calipers in the front and OEM FHP rears for a few years and that combo worked fine. Another owner did the same thing with a 456M and never fitted ceramics on the rear like I did.

 

I did it all at once.

Thakfully, from my perspective anyway, it is NOT a night and day difference. I have other cars for slinging about; I simply wanted to tighten the 575 up a little bit and improve some of the tactile experience, both of which were accomplished. The character and tractability remain but the car is certainly sharper now. I also have Trev360’s tune, so that moves the visceral appeal up a bit more as well.

 

I had ceramic rotors and pads made to spec for my tesla plaid, very happy with how it turned out

Will do the same for my 575m after I get the exhaust on

Not sure what wheel setup I want to do

If I do 20" wheels
front 405mm rear 380mm ~9100$

If I do 19" wheels
front 380mm rear 380mm ~8900$
front 380mm rear 355mm ~8700$

If I do 18" wheels
front 355mm rear 355mm ~8500$

Prices include calipers, brace disc, brake pads, and brake lines (full sets)

 

Thats a VERY good price. OEM HGTC conversion priced today is around 20k-25k for the brakes alone if you are very aggressive with sourcing parts.

 

What is the source for the ceramics? Mine came from Mov'It.

 

Some OE company I found off alibaba
They were making rotors for some race teams in EU
I said what the hell let me try it out on my Plaid (1000hp)
I have 0 complaints after 15k miles

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Wonder if they get the rotors from Surface Transforms?

 

My vendor said no, its an in house 3d knitting technology, long fiber series, third gen product

 

So even better then HGTC (all I don’t know if they updated the rotor compound)

 

Affirmative, just like my Mov'It rotors are two generations better than CCMs. Those should be one generation newer and even better.