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  1. axlesofevil

    axlesofevil Formula 3
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    #1 axlesofevil, Mar 17, 2021
    Hey all,

    Thought I'd post the video I put together from my first time at Streets of Willow in SoCal. It's... not one of my favorite tracks. Definitely pretty technical and not great for a big high-horsepower car. And the track is kind of falling apart; instead of nice berms the track just sort of.... ends. If you clip a corner you get quite the jolt as you'll see in the video.

    This was also my first time using a GoPro and RaceChrono. Turns out the iPhone GPS is not very good so you'll see the speeds jumping. I've since upgraded my setup to include an external GPS.



    And a pic from the day:
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    Enjoy!
     
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  2. rob5819

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    #2 rob5819, Mar 17, 2021
    Amazing video and pictures. Your 458 just looks so much angrier than mine.
     
  3. fatbillybob

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    #3 fatbillybob, Mar 17, 2021
    Congrats! Hope you get out to the local tracks more. I excercise my 550 on track about once a year then club race a 2019 mustang Gt the rest of the year. If interested a really fun driver's school can be found at AROSC.org. Next one is sept 2021 a bit hot that time of year but fun. They have 3 classes HI Perf driving, time trials and race group. All the classes are fun and cheap! It is a great weekend with great people. Every few years I'll do race school again to practice starts all day.
     
  4. stoked_7

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    #4 stoked_7, Mar 17, 2021
    Nice video, fun tight road track.
     
  5. GT2goneF

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    #5 GT2goneF, Mar 18, 2021
    Looks like you had a lot of fun. Such a shame, the track is in really bad shape. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    #6 axlesofevil, Mar 18, 2021
    I also have an E92 M3 that I use to track. It's a bit easier to drive and a lot more neutral. The 458 is a bit of a handful.

    I actually ran with AROSC years ago! They run a good event. I'll have to look into going back sometime. I'll check out the Sep date.
     
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    #7 spyder625, Mar 18, 2021
    thanks for sharing, looks like a blast and your skills look good
     
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  8. dustman

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    #8 dustman, Mar 19, 2021
    I ran my E92 Comp on Big Willow and beat the 458 every lap. Love both, diff purposes. 458 is a wonderful handful. M3 so predictable.
     
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    #9 axlesofevil, Mar 19, 2021
    Yeah the track day shown here was on the original 5yo Pilot Sports that came with the car. After getting used to my M3 the 458 just seemed a bit terrifying. Lots of power oversteer.

    A month later I took the M3 to Chuckwalla and ran with R888R. On the first lap I shouted to myself "I love this car." It is just so balanced and neutral, especially compared to the Italia. I think better tires and more seat time will help me appreciate the F car a bit more.
     
  10. dustman

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    #10 dustman, Mar 19, 2021
    Completely agree with you. My M3 set the fastest lap all day at BigW, including GT3’s, 458’s and heavily mod cars. Stock M3 comp with good tires is the real deal. If you remove a few hundred pounds from the car...!
     
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    #11 fatbillybob, Mar 19, 2021
    Isn't it amazing how good a BMW can be! Honestly, I have been underwhelmed in every Ferrari I have driven on the track. In fact back in the day the 348 was the hot Ferrari. Mine turned into a gutted out racecar as I wanted more and more from the 348. Street trim just did not do it for me. Today I keep one last "old man" 550 maranello as my future trackcar when I can no longer race.

    I think often of racing the motorsports version M2clubsport but man that thing is heavy
     
  12. dustman

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    #12 dustman, Mar 19, 2021
    I bet we are in the minority thinking this way though as the brand image often obscures reality. There’s no doubt that the right F car in hands of very talented drivers is quicker. But for the avg fanatic, not so much.
     
  13. axlesofevil

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    #13 axlesofevil, Mar 19, 2021
    I mean you just look at any track day and see the cars there and you can see how people feel about F cars at track duty. They're all BMWs and Porsches as far as the eye can see. And the smattering of McLarens. Sure an M3 driver might not be in the budget for a Ferrari, but someone with a GT3 RS? GT2? 600LT?

    I was definitely a little disappointed in my experience but I chalked it up to the less-than-stellar track and my less-than-stellar tires. I'm headed to Willow Springs with fresh PS4Ss later this month so I'm interested in seeing how much the experience improves.
     
  14. dustman

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    #14 dustman, Mar 19, 2021
    The thought of going off into the front splitter and rim destroying hardpack on all sides of the track leaves one less than 100% committed on many of those high speed turns.
     
  15. axlesofevil

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    #15 axlesofevil, Mar 19, 2021
    Yeah, exactly. That's what was so nice about our old LeMons race car. It's meant to be trashed. :p

    Take those turns at 10/10s with no fear.
     

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