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Fixing convertible top bar / elastic?

Discussion in '360/430' started by arachnyd, Aug 24, 2020.

  1. Need4Spd

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    I used them to rebuild the secondary cylinders. FedEx'd them out on a Saturday, got them back (selected $40 FedEx shipping) the following Friday morning by 10:30am. Easy to work with, reasonable folks and they answered all my questions quickly and accurately.
     
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  5. ttforcefed

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    so when everyone references the 10K + costs from ferrari are these the parts being refers to?
     
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  7. EastMemphis

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    I don't know which is the best but I wouldn't hesitate to replace the top canvas myself if I needed it.
     
  8. cpoferrari

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    Warning if the top starts sticking, get the bands changed, don't wait. I procrastinated and eventually a got two puncture holes on both sides of the top. Now I need to replace the top. $15,000 by the dealer $8000 for an after market by a local Ferrari shop. Through this forum I found GAHH who sell tops for $2,200. If anyone has an alternative, in NJ please let me know.
     
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    ttforcefed: When I saw mine putting a strain on my canvas I immediately bought 4" x 4" patches of black velcro
    and with some additional cloth glue I glued it on to the canvas top from the inside. That was 4 years ago.
    Still holds and protects the top from getting holes such as those.
     

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  12. ttforcefed

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    Did your top ever stop working?
     
  13. hessank

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    No. Works great so far.
    Hope I don't jinx myself
     
  14. ttforcefed

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    so the elastic bands prevent the top from developing holes, but if a top does have holes it it doesn't mean the top wont work properly?
     
  15. Apollo 11

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    I replaced the elastic bands on mine and I don't see how those holes would prevent the top from working.
     
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    thanks for this very useful knowledge.

    I have my 430 spider serviced by a good Ferrari authorised shop which specialises in classic restorations, older than 430s. I will ask them to replace these elastics. Do I need to specify which ones? I imagine your knowledge is ahead of theirs on this model.
     
  17. ttforcefed

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    thanks for posting - was wondering the same thing
     
  18. EastMemphis

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    360 and 430 Spider tops are interchangeable.

    I suggest replacing all 14 elastic bands.

    I have the details in the article I wrote after I did it myself. It's really a good DIY project if you're confident about your skills.

    https://www.ferrari360.org/2020/09/capote-elastic-bands-and-more.html

    I went through a total breakdown of the methods, equipment, measurements and materials required. Please ask if I missed something.

    Any decent shop should be able to accomplish this. I would guess they'd charge at least 6 and maybe 10 hours if they haven't done one before. Pretty inexpensive for the amazing improvement in the top's functioning. I lowered my top in front of Home Depot the other day with at least 20 people passing by. Before, I would have been horrified to do that since the top always had a 50-50 chance of jamming. Now, I know it's going to close and hardly even give it a glance (except to verify the bar went where it should!).
     
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    @EastMemphis your writeup/blog is spectacular, thank you for pointing me to it! I will definitely be performing this procedure when it starts to warm up here in NJ

    @ttforcefed , as you've likely surmised by my posts so far, yes, it happened on my F430. I got the car in Sep 2020, used the roof when I got it, and when it was delivered to me in Nov and both times worked perfectly. Tried it yesterday and wouldn't go all the way down, I suspect its the elastics on the main bar from what I've been reading. I think it was the fact that it was cold out that made it just enough to not work this time, it was probably iffy since I got it, but I didn't realize it.

    Unfortunately, upon more careful inspection now, I did notice the two vampire bite marks on either side of the roof, so this clearly has not been a perfectly operating roof, I guess I got lucky past 2 times I had tried it.

    Many thanks to all who have contributed to the forums on this issue!!!! and I owe you John for the writeup, you clearly have save me and many others time, and money!
     
  20. ttforcefed

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    I dont know man / i have the vampire holes and never an issue opening and closing the roof.
     
  21. colorfull

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    'tis a puzzlement!
     

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