Flared 348

I would keep oil lines as short as possible for two reasons. 1) I am not sure of the effect of pressure drop along long distances. 2) is a safety issue. Oil line can and do break and can either burn people or be fuel for fires. Less oil lines the better. I change oil every track weekend so I have no oil breakdown concerns. REad this thread. How timely is this? And to our own 348 brethren! http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136707179&postcount=1

I am sprint or endurance racing so A 2 A is the way. In drag racing the water units make sence since you can run ice. There are too many barriers to expell heat with water. So Air has it and it weighs less with less plumbing. At least that is my minimal understanding of the art. Do you do Turbos for a living?

 

Just saw this post - I LOVE IT!!! The interior is ruined with the diamond plate flooring, but the rest of the cars looks very sweet.

 

Bob, do you know the suction and pressure of oil pump you are running? I do not think there would be a problem with pressure drop but if you can get me info on your pump I can check. As far as a safety issue, any line can break i.e. fuel or oil.....I see more of a safety issue with long fuel lines and front mouted fuel tank.....most oil fires are caused when oil comes into contact with headers/exhaust.....with front mounted oil tank and cooler this will not be an issue....also by keeping the fuel tank in current location dialing the suspension in will be very easy.
You say there are to many barriers to expel heat with water....I do not understand this...your engine heat is expelled with coolant, and most newer turbos use coolant to expel heat......the new coolant to air intercoolers are pretty efficient(every 360 turbo mod. I've seen uses them) but if you prefer air to air go for it.
No, I no longer do turbos....the only ones I've ever done were for IMSA and FISA Porsche endurance racing teams....my first experience was with the infamous 917K and for approx. 20 years after that I was heavily involved in Grp4 934 single turbo, Grp5 935 twin turbo, and GTP 962 race cars. As you can see I am from the old school of turbo motors....todays technology is much more advanced and gives you alot of options that were unavailable 15 years ago.

 

Bob, I do not know what kind of racing you plan on doing nor the expected power output you hope to achieve......depending on boost level you are going to be running higher head temps and oil returning from turbos is going to be extremely hot(especially with oil cooled turbo)......it will take more than a stock oil cooling system to keep the temps acceptable...even more so if you are doing endurance racing...also turbo motors running high boost consume more oil....all of this has nothing to do with changing your oil after every race...you should do this whether it is normally aspirated or compressed.
Your biggest challenge is with the engine internals.....348/355 were not built for turbo application.....355 may have an edge with titanium connecting rods, but both have way too high compression ratios.....we ran as low as 7 to 1 compression ratios w/forged pistons(935's 3.0-3.2 motors developed over 900hp and lasted for 24hrs) .....cams are ok(turbo motors like mild cam profiles)...the stock cams are a little on the radical side for turbo but acceptable....exh. valves probably need changing(we ran 2 valve heads with sodium filled exh. valves) and valve guides should be best available for high heat applications......if you plan on running decent boost you will need to make sure the intake and exhaust systems have NO leaks(you do not need equal lenght primary tube headers)....MOST importantly you will need to O-ring the cylinder heads. You will also need to upgrade the fuel injectors and again for high boost motors the fuel delivery system will have to be beefed up....all of this in conjunction with modified ecu's.
One last thing.....we always ran break-away self sealing Aeroquip fitting at ALL critical points of both fuel and oil lines for safety in case of a crash.
If you are still turbo minded I would definitely get with Group77Racing....his intake system looks ideal for turbo application.......I have always wanted to see a liquid to air intercooler that uses the A/C compressor.....the power loss from driving this setup would be minimal compared to the tremendous gains resulting from getting the intake air temps below ambient, but no one has the balls(or should I say "money"...lol) to see a project like this thru to the end

 

We kinda hijacked this thread. I'm taking this post to a new thread called 348 turbo. Lets go there....

 

FBB are you getting flares or what???

 

not only can the "ricers" take the hondas and nissans and make them look idiotic.. now they are moving to the Ferraris? Maybe they can take Pamela Anderson and put a giant wing and big tail pipes on her too..

 

Now that is something I would definitely like to stare at.....lol

 

That is all Pamela needs..... more 'bolt ons' ...

 

+1....lol

 

Don't know why wings and flares would look idiotic on a Ferrari. It certainly goes fast enough to enjoy the benefits of both. Ask FBB about +10mph in fast curves at Willow with a wing. The ricers are copying faster cars....that's us. Let's keep Pam stock, though.

 

I agree on all counts..even the one for good ole Pam

 

2 things.

1- they're not calling it a 355. If you can't read Jap, at least look at the before/after of the 5 slats.

2- the wheel-arches on this, while I am not disputing they are made-in-Japan, I would say they are more 'Pininfarina' 288GTO than 'Koenig' Testarossa; check the angles on the Koenig Testarossa behind the front wheel vs the curve in the same area of the 288.

Cars like the P4/5, the Straman Testarossas, bread-vans, and even winglets on Ferrari's own current F1 cars are about making Ferraris Ferraris. Ferrari models & Ferrari history doesn't always run off a production line.

On seeing the 'replica' 250GTO Spyder do you think Enzo would have told ZZTop they weren't welcome on the front lawn, or do you think he would have looked at it and gone... 'no roof... hmmm... wonder how it sounds now'

 

I think the car on the first page is what ferrari should have built the body is shape nice and round wish they put the side strakes on and kept with the 348 style and theme. would love to see a f355 done. the car looks like a modern 288 gto. very nice.

 

It does look proportioned but I don't like how he blocked/removed the rocker panel vents under the doors !!!

 

I agree if he kept the 348 theme meaning just add the flares to add muscle and kept all the the vents and rocker panels not to throw off the style of the car.