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Flowmasters on a Ferrari? WTF!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by MufflerMan, Nov 6, 2005.

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  1. Spasso

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    I don't think it's a matter of whether you'll damage your engine. I think that's a non-issue. It's a matter of back pressure or lack of, flow efficiency and scavenging.

    None of the mufflers mentioned in this thread will damage a Ferrari engine, or ANY other engine.
     
  2. Boxer12

    Boxer12 Formula 3

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    What? Yes, its torquey, but I beg to differ on your op about the power range. JMHO.
     
  3. Boxer12

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    Hmm. Maybe that's why they (Flowmaster) don't list one for my Dodge Hemi. It too is a high revver.
     
  4. Spasso

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    Agreed, not as torquey as the 350 Chevy I have but relative to my 308 yes, lower ranges.
     
  5. chrismorse

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    #30 chrismorse, Nov 6, 2005
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    Ok, i did it, i went low dollar on the exhaust. $650 for a nice clean low restriction exhaust system on my 308 versus a $2600 Tubi???? I've had flowmasters on a 454 chevy truck, on my toyota work truck and it is good enough for my 308. sounds good, no rust in 1.5 years. I put resonator tips on it to quiet it down a bit, I still have to drive the wife around in it :),

    There are a ot of things to spend $$ on with the Ferrari, goodies for sure, but i have a long maintenance list and an expensive upgrade list.

    Works for me.
    best,
    chris
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  6. Boxer12

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    Ya, the beauty of that 12 is that it starts chargin early and just keeps building to the red line and over (it seems). As far as pipes, some guys here put straight pipes on them, no muffler at all, so how can anyone bash flowmaster? To each his own, eh? I prefer the highly tuned sound of the Tubi. Well worth the money to me. And sets it apart from everything else. BTW, Why is everyone always trying to save money on a Ferrari? A 512 no less. WTF. Then again, maybe she just liked the sound. I agree, we need a sound clip.
     
  7. Spasso

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    My buddy has Tubi on his TR and another member has a Capristo

    The Tubi starts barking about 4k whereas the Capristo sounds off over the entire range. Both great sounding.
     
  8. Boxer12

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    I remember some kid had a website with exhaust sounds....what ever happenned to that? Its very subjective, isn't it? I remember when the CS's first came out and everyone was saying how loud they were, and then I heard them in person and it really wasn't all that loud. THen again, maybe the one I heard had a flowmaster conversion!
     
  9. Boxer12

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    Chris, you just gotta quit spending all your chits on booze and women! Get married so you can spend all your money on your Ferrari like the rest of us! LOL
     
  10. chrismorse

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    I'd rather do $600 on the flowmaster and put the other $2000 into bigger brakes or doing a thermostat on the oil cooler or sway bars or adjustable shocks or better wheels and tires.

    BUT if $$$is no object. rip on it.

    viva enzo
     
  11. MufflerMan

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    I think you guys are misunderstanding my advice to not put Flowmasters on Ferraris. By no means am I insinuating Flowmasters will damage these cars or hurt performance, afterall stock mufflers are terrible for flow especially some of the 80's cars, I just want to point out there are much better alternatives. I don't blame anyone for wanting to save money from a Tubi. My cost on one for my 355 is about $4k after the dollar euro adjustment, that wil almost pay for my belt service. What I am saying is the straight through mufflers will yield better performance, and in my opinion, much better sound. Those of you tat have already done this and are happy that's great. But those of you that are thinking about an alternative to Tubi or Capristo, my advice would be to go with Magnaflow or Borla.
     
  12. lawwdog

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    I think we should re-name this thread MUFFLER TECH....or better yet call it how to flowmaster your Ferrari !!!

    Put a Flowmaster on your furd or ply mouth. for $49.99 at your local speed shop someone with 2 broken front teeth can weld it on your Fierro !!!

    Come on now...

    Mario













    P.S. Just Jokes :)
     
  13. MufflerMan

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    This from a guy thats going to put a tubi on a 360 coupe that says spider on it!
     
  14. lawwdog

    lawwdog Formula 3

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    Actually,

    this from a guy that NOW has a tubi that says 360 on it only :)..and a happy spider owner has one that says spider.

    TAKE THAT MUFFLER MAN !!!!!
     
  15. 308 GTB

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    Nice setup you have there, Chris. Especially with that muffler hanging out there on that "shieldless" early GTB of yours.
     
  16. quartermaster

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    Seems to me that if you can save $3k+ and get an exhaust system that is satisfying, why not?
     
  17. chrismorse

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    Thanks,

    Which shield are you talking about? The car came with a shield that hid the infamous thermoreactor. It looked to be a thin painted perforated piece of steel. I took it off to have the flowmaster put on and decided to leave it off because i am right on the coast and i could imagine the piece rusting off fairly soon, (besides, i thought it looked kind of superflous)

    The muffler is designed for a transverse mounting, utilizing two 2.5 inlets from a 350 v8 and exiting through two 2.5 pipes, so, plenty of capacity.

    The muffler tec installed a stainless heat shield on the top side, which is secured with two pinched stainless clamps. It is tucked up to within 1-2 inches of the trunk bottom.
    We test fired it without the resonator tips and i could see guys grinning inside the muffler office - i could imagine having to be extreamly carefull in town to avoid attracting police attention, so we put the tips on and quieted down quite a bit.
    The system was pulled down and shot with VHT black per the instructions.

    Like a lot of other guysgoing to aftermarket exhausts, i also noticed that the car backfired and was running lean at low speed and idle, so i upped the main, ac and idle juts one notch and reinstalled the K&N filter.

    A definite gain in horsepower and seems to rev easier.

    BTW, the first black muffler in my previous post was a photo i lifted from the old archive. I was not breaking new ground. The second photo is the installation on my car prior to paint.

    my .02
    chris
     
  18. ferrarigtofan

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    Bragging rights. Some people have to tell you, either directly or indirectly, what everythign they have ever purchased cost, as a way of validating themselves as superior. Does a Rolex tell better time than a Timex? Is eating a $200 meal any more filling than ordering a pizza? Does AM news radio sound better on a $15,000 stereo system? People find value in different things, to some the "best" is barely good enough, to others the "best" signifies reckless spending for brand name recognition. Why do they ask women at the Oscars "who's your dress by?" Couldn't the reporter simply say, "wow that's a beautiful dress Mrs. Ryan, good luck tonight"?
     
  19. BigAl

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    There’s a number of posts regarding 308s and cherry bombs, etc. I thought about that route but had difficulty finding a shop with mandrel bending capability and then got to thinking, its a Ferrari and I'm going to scrimp? I searched around and decided on the Larini and got a fair price from the US distrib, DexM. It’s a simple bolt on procedure and I’m not going to have to leave at a shop and trust some guy to weld something together. All I heard when I went to the muffler shops was, “Well, we can try…”. Not exactly instilling confidence.

    I will do Flowmasters on my TR8. They should sound absolutely fantastic and really screw with people’s minds when they see the wedge and hear the booming V8. LOVE that Flowmaster sound.
     
  20. quartermaster

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    I have a Submariner that is about 45 years old, serviced every few years for several hundred $/ea. I wear it because I love it--NOT because it keeps good time. My kitchen range has a clock on it that keeps way better time than the Rolex, but when I try to wear the range as a timepiece it really hampers my movement and grossly inhibits my ability to drive safely.
     
  21. BigAl

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    yeah, but I bet that Submariner doesn't heat soup worth a crap.
     
  22. quartermaster

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    Never thought of that.
    We already got 'multi-function' wristwatches (calculators, etc.), why not one with a soup heating feature? Maybe beer dispensing, too?
    I'm calling the patent attorney now!
     
  23. BigAl

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    now THAT's an idea!!!!
     
  24. quartermaster

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    ...call it the wristrange. Sell it to the military. Just think, HOT MRE's!
     
  25. ferrarigtofan

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    Don't you find an irony in this statement? I was always under the assumption the primary purpose of a wrist watch was to tell time, to that end, the "best" watch would be the most accurate wouldn't it? You are wearing your watch as a fashion accessory, religating its time keeping function to secondary. I use my cell phone to tell me the time, and to be a total anti-fashion nerd I keep it in my pocket, not on my belt. You attribute love to an inanimate object and find joy from such, to me a watch is passe technology which is made redundant by the need to have a cellular phone. As I said earlier, we each place value on different things. I own a Rolex and consider it to be a POS and I will sell it when the person who gave it to me dies, until then I put it on for family functions so they can see me wearing it.
     

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