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Fluctuating idle on 1990 UK Testa

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  1. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    My Testa has aquired a strange up and down of the revs while idling, anybody know what causes this and what the answer to it is, it's most frustrating. When pulling off the revs seem to drop and it sometimes stalls. I have to rev it to move off. I have the engine running now and it's gradually got worse and now it has stopped altogether????????????????
     
  2. Iain

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    Si,

    first port of call is to check all your plug lead - plug connections are sound. I had something similar on my 328 & found I had a slightly loose connection on two plugs. A bit of fettling in the spring clip thing in the plug extender sorted it.

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  3. barabus

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    Hi Iain, had all the plugs out on sunday cleaned and replced them, all connections seem OK?
     
  4. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Was it working before you took the plugs out or was this why you took the plugs out?

    From what you describe its almost certainly an ignition issue rather than fuel I think.

    I'd be looking at the ignition system & checking from the spark plug backwards. Might involve removing the Dizzy caps & checking the individual plug leads for breaks etc (resistance test etc) . Not sure how much of a chore that is on the Testa....

    Does the Testa use extenders between the plug & the lead like the 308/328? If so these can get burned through & cause arcing.

    I'd also check the caps carefully for cracks and the rotor arms.
     
  5. cachias

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    Hi mate, had the same problem on mine. I believe it is down to 2 regulators (look like small discs) on either bank of cylinders. They open and close to regulate air flow. I believe they can become stuck.

    They are mega bucks to buy new but problem can be solved removing and cleaning/lubricating.
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

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    #6 Steve Magnusson, Feb 12, 2008
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    +1 -- first (and fairly easy) thing to rule in or out on your late euro F113B TR are items 16 in this jpeg. At high RPM and closed throttle plate (i.e., no load and very high intake manifold vacuum) they are supposed to open which allows some air to flow around the closed throttle plate. For a test (when having the problem), just manually pinch or block the larger air hoses closed (simulating a closed by-pass valve item 16) and see if it has any affect on gentle warm running/idling.

    Wouldn't hurt to check that the throttle microswitch, item 8, is working correctly too. Can cause a wandering idle, but wouldn't really affect "pulling away" -- still always possible that you've got 2 things not working well and easy enough to check/adjust without getting greasy ;).

    Does this mean:

    1. The problem has consistently gotten worse and now the engine has quit running altogether, or

    2. The problem had been consistently getting worse, but now has disappeared and the engine is running OK?
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  7. barabus

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    Hello Jeff, I meant the hunting got worse until the engine conked out.

    Can you point out the air hoses to pinch?
     
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  9. barabus

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    Well this gets stranger, 1st time i started it from cold today it ran OK for a few mins then strted surging and finally died. 2nd time i needed gas pedal to start it. 3rd time starts fine normally and runs @1000rpm give or take and stays like that until the rad fans come on then i notice it starts to fluctuate a little only to 1100rpm, when the fans go off it stablelises again. weird?
     
  10. tazz99

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    Sounds like a typical "lean surge" condition due to a vacum leak somewhere. Would not be as noticable on a cold engine due to the mixture being richer for a cold start.
     
  11. barabus

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    The other odd thing is when you go to pull away the revs drop to 500 and if you don't give it some revs it will die?
     

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