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Flying a Ferrari under a helicopter?

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  1. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

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    I'm wanting to price some high visibility promotions of a proposed sweepstakes.

    I searched Google for a while.

    Anyone know where to start? A Florida outfit is perfect as there may be flights in Sarasota and Tampa.

    I'm thinking about flying around the Superboat Gran Prixs in which I'm sponsoring Team Muscle here in Sarasota.

    First race weekend... July 4th.

    There's also Coco Beach, Key West and Pensacola.
     
  2. Mbutner

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    Risk > Reward.
     
  3. toggie

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    This is the one situation where using a cheap Ferrari replica car might be better than a real Ferrari.
     
  4. open roads

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    Just what I was thinking.

    How about this for going viral... "Idiot dumps Ferrari from helicopter"

    Then take a repro and do something wicked to it.
     
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    Stan- Ferrari just delivered the FF to the press corps out of a helicopter in the Alps.

    Under a helicopter? Easy to do with the correct helicopter. Like the guys said, though, a great opportunity for screwing up the delivery. Put it on a pallet and have some impact attenuation bags on the bottom of the pallet that are easy to deflate. Lower the odds of failure.

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  7. open roads

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    Yeah, a 4,000# lift isn't so hard for the right one. I have considered using some sort of stand in.

    I'll let everyone here know of course.





    I wish someone would make a local search engine that would make finding this easier.
     
  8. bbs911

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    Have you tried a commercial HVAC company? Lots of times they use copters to lift units to tops of buildings and could point you in the right direction.
     
  9. open roads

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    Good idea. I have more pressing needs but will keep poking about w this one.
     
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  11. ChipG

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    Will the FAA allow that over populated area? My FAA FAR's reg book is around here somewhere.
     
  12. toggie

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  13. donv

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    Take a look at some of the pictures on Erickson's site, and I think you'll find your answer.

    If you're still looking for your FARs, I believe it's part 133.

     
  14. ChipG

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    Thanks, it's 133.45(D) and NO it can NOT be done over a populated area.


    In addition to the operating limitations set forth in the approved Rotorcraft Flight Manual, and to any other limitations the Administrator may prescribe, the operator shall establish at least the following limitations and set them forth in the Rotorcraft-Load Combination Flight Manual for rotorcraft-load combination operations:

    (a) The rotorcraft-load combination may be operated only within the weight and center of gravity limitations established in accordance with §133.43(c).

    (b) The rotorcraft-load combination may not be operated with an external load weight exceeding that used in showing compliance with §§133.41 and 133.43.

    (c) The rotorcraft-load combination may not be operated at airspeeds greater than those established in accordance with §133.41 (b), (c), and (d).

    (d) No person may conduct an external-load operation under this part with a rotorcraft type certificated in the restricted category under §21.25 of this chapter over a densely populated area, in a congested airway, or near a busy airport where passenger transport operations are conducted.

    (e) The rotorcraft-load combination of Class D may be conducted only in accordance with the following:

    (1) The rotorcraft to be used must have been type certificated under transport Category A for the operating weight and provide hover capability with one engine inoperative at that operating weight and altitude.

    (2) The rotorcraft must be equipped to allow direct radio intercommunication among required crewmembers.

    (3) The personnel lifting device must be FAA approved.

    (4) The lifting device must have an emergency release requiring two distinct actions.

    [Doc. No. 1529, 29 FR 603, Jan. 24, 1964, as amended by Amdt. 133-1, 30 FR 883, Jan. 28, 1965; Amdt. 133-5, 41 FR 55476, Dec. 20, 1976; Amdt. 133-6, 42 FR 24198, May 12, 1977; Amdt. 133-9, 51 FR 40709, Nov. 7, 1986]
     
  15. open roads

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    Nice site. I had found them Googling. I haven't made contact because I saw Portland. There are other headquartered out west as well. I hope they have east coast connections/capabilities.

    It doesn't say anything about a Ferrari in what they can lift.
     
  16. donv

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    Read it again-- it says "densely populated area" not "populated area." There is a difference.

    Erickson operates world-wide. It won't be cheap, as I said before. If you're looking to do this on the cheap, well, I wouldn't do it at all.

     
  17. ChipG

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    The beach on race day will be a densely populated area but over the water will not and should be ok, not during the race with the camera and rescue choppers flying tho, air space might be reserved a couple hours before and after the race, he needs to get in communication with this air lift company.

    I'd like to see his idea work but another thing to consider if it does fly is will anybody be able to really see it well enough from a bottom angle to tell it's a Ferrari? Will it be too far away over the water to get a good look at it?

    It's a pretty expensive idea he is talking about doing, just trying to think this through. A small plane with a banner in tow might be more effective and no doubt 90% or more cheaper to do.
     

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