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Discussion in '308/328' started by Doug, Apr 14, 2010.

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Beautiful front of your car btw. Can you clue me in on what those lights are and where did you get that grille and the front wing to accomodate the lights? I'd like to do the 288 GTO front look eventually. Even thinking about abandoning the pop up headlights altogether (they create no light and weigh a ton).

    Not to criticize your car, but I prefer Steven's approach to the front lid, which is more like the F40 LM: No central louvres.
     
  2. ddiesen

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    #52 ddiesen, May 14, 2010
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    They are PIAA lamps XT90's if I remember right. And we built the grill from multiple 308 grills and fabbed new verticals. Thats still the stock euro valance and a 288 bumper. Just replaced the valance with the one from Berlinetta with brake ducts. Was going for the modded 308 look as opposed to the 288 clone. :)

    And I agree I'm really liking Steven's hood. It's very clean. :)
     
  3. gcmerak

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    Hi Andreas,

    I couldn't notice the Momo Race steering wheel. I have one as well, money very well spent!

    Ciao,
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  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks.

    I did that for a few reasons: My original one had screws that were worn out, so I could never remove it. We had to drill them out and in the process scratched it. The new wheel is not only cool looking, it also has some carbon fibre inserts (I can never have enough CF in the car) and allowed me to install the steering wheel removal device, which acts as another theft deterrent (plus brings the wheel an inch closer to my non monkey arms).
     
  5. st@ven

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  6. gcmerak

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    Hi Andreas and Steven,

    I am very interested in what you all are doing with CF parts for your 308s. I want to redesign some parts for my Merak SS.

    Competition Car Composites 2nd by Simon McBeath, has just come out this past March. It is suppose to contain the latest in composite technology. I'll be buying that shortly. Secondly, taking a course in making composite parts at a community college may save me a lot of trial and error frustration in the long run. What do you all think?

    Ciao,
    George
     
  7. tifosi12

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    #57 tifosi12, May 15, 2010
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    Steven is the CF wizard here, so he should respond.

    All I do is look for CF parts on ebay that fit into the 308. Also I found CF "foil" with a self adhesive on the back: That's perfect to cover flat surfaces. That's how I covered the fuse box cover and that little square forward of the shifter on the middle console.

    In a perfect world, the whole car was made of CF. Short of that, I try to at least make it look like that. :)
     
  8. hanknum

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    Yeah, but why 2 batteries (heavier) and mounted higher (higher CG)?
     
  9. ddiesen

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    #59 ddiesen, May 16, 2010
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    Used 2 6v since there was no room for the 12v battery. The weight difference between the 2 6v and the 12v optima batteries was minimal but they are mounted about 4 in higher (higher CG) :( and much more rearward than the stock location. We placed them as low and far forward as space would allow. After replacing the radiator, removal of the spare and other non essential items last thing I wanted to do was throw the battery in the trunk. :)


    Steven, What quick disconnect are you useing on your steering wheel? I've got one from lifeline but I still need to mill a slight chamfer in the stock hub for it to fit. And I really like the look of yours.
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  10. thecarreaper

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    love this thread, i would love to find and buy a modded 308 such as this !
     
  11. tifosi12

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    Not easy to find. Rather go for one that has cosmetic problems or even some accident damage: You get it relatively cheap and then have no bad feelings replacing bits and pieces.

    If I had to do it all over again, I would find one with lots of front and/or rear damage and put 288 GTO replica clips on.
     
  12. st@ven

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    #62 st@ven, May 16, 2010
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    Well thanx for the credit but that's to much of it:):)
    I do plan on making a lot of parts of CF but i'm only learning now, and due to being coached by a guy that actually worked on a lot cf parts for Ferrari i'm sure in the end i will have some expertise, but not yet (although i'm learnig fast:))

    But if i'm asked for advise: take all the coarses you can get, they will save you for all kind of newbees mistake for sure and surely save you some money in the end.


    That's still an interesting discussion. When I went to Italy last year (with my 328) I obviously wanted to take advantage of driving the German roads. Therefore i ADDED 10 kg of lead ( i'm a diver) UNDER the sparewheel, as much to the front as possible. At 160mph it was almost flying ( And i mean really flying, the contact with the road went to almost nothing, pretty scary experience:(:().
    The same it did however when, on an earlier occasion, with about the same speed, without the lead AND without the sparewheel.

    since than i'm not really sure this weight-thing is actually true. Maybe it's more a design thing. For my track 308 i will plan an huge frontspoiler..... And as with the old Michellotti's cars i dd plan on having the battery at the back. ( I do like the idea of two smaller 6V packs however.)


    My quick release was a cheapy from some local (over here) online store. I had to remodell it to and it has some anoying play( not radial luckily..) I'm actually plan on getting a better one. Yours does look sharp!

    Sorry mine won't be for sale for a long time :):):) (if only to raise funds to buy my ultimate dreamcar, the F40)
     
  13. tifosi12

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    I think it kinda depends on what you use the car for. Even on track days I doubt I get much into the triple digits, so whether there is some lift at the front is somewhat meaningless compared to quick acceleration off the starting line/traffic light and being nimble around turns.
     
  14. Hans

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    Hmmm, with weighed front AND luggage in the back, mine too is still skittish (I had about 60 lbs worth of tools in the front). However, with luggage unloaded and tool stuff still up front, you could certainly notice that the front was much more planted.

    Today, with all empty again, she felt so much more agile...

    It certainly has its effect. Not sure if it's a good effect though...
     
  15. st@ven

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    #65 st@ven, May 17, 2010
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    after a few attempts making a decent mould, (It drove me nuts) today i finished the first shot at what must come under the fronthood.
    It's still in the mould but i think, after obvious reworking the surface, this should do the job: guiding air from the radiator to the big hole in the lid
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  16. tifosi12

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    Starting to look good.

    BTW: I always wanted a CF cover for the airbox in the engine compartment. I find that plastic cover so incredibly cheap looking. Ideally the whole airbox out of cf, but if that's too hard to do, at least the top half.

    PS: I replaced the air hose with a cf tube. Looks already a tad better.
     
  17. tifosi12

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    Bump.

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