Ford GT 139,995

There's about as much chance of somebody getting one for $140k as getting a 360 Spyder for MSRP if they walk into a dealership tomorrow and try to order one. Maybe "any" Ford dealer can service the engine (even that's not true, only SVT dealers have seen a supercharger) but they won't have a clue about that Porsche transaxle.

BTW, if a dealer says he can get you one, he's selling you a story. Ford hasn't even allocated them yet. There's going to be less than one per dealer, which means some dealers won't even get one. The owner of my local dealer is going to keep the one he expects to get. So if very many of the other dealers do the same, there will be very few that make it into the general public's hands, and you can bet the price will be stratospheric.

Also, iirc Ford says they will only build it for 2 model years because increasingly stringent emissions and fuel mileage standards will kill the supercharged motor.

 

For Ferrari to get into a war with Ford would be like America(or any other country for that matter) getting into a war with France . theres only one possible outcome.

 

Good, then not only will it outperform a Z06 and a Viper, but it will be cheaper than one of them and look better, arguably, than both (if not, at least one of them.)

I would guess it to hold 70-75% of its value after 3 years, partly due to supply and the sheer demand it has.

Being easier to service than a Porsche or Ferrari, Billy Joe with his Lightning in the garage and tuning the Cobra on blocks can look at it and go, darn, this sure looks familiar... wow this purty engine sure slips out easy, I wunder what happerns if we switch that there s/c pulley and rip out dem emissions gizmos...

A complex computerized driven supercar is counter to the thought process that designed the first GT40 and what designed the Ford GT.

Keep in mind Ford did have a prototype replacement with the same moniker but scrapped the idea and decided the best way forward was to go back to BASICS. And those basics with a lot of brain power whooped up on everyone before.

This first model is just a swipe under the chin towards the other manufacturers while celebrating Ford's 100th. Some, but not many, might be afraid of what this car could do with tuning. The next model will be the one that will have them running in terror.

Norwood has nothing to work with compared to the untapped potential being built into the first model Ford GT. But not many of you are "Ford people" so you won't believe it until you see it.

Check out some time slips on the tuned up Cobras. Now imagine if it shed several hundred lbs or was turned into a raced out version.

Ala Field of Dreams, "If you build it, they will come..."

Sunny

 

it means that was then and this is now. Ford use to bea good company. as were alot of others that now have lost touch with what made them good. Even Chevy for that matter (and im a huge chevy fan) Ferrari is the best and they will remain the best. i heard one time ford tried to buy ferrari and the reason ferrari didnt do it was becuase Enzo demanded to be in charge of the racing division and they didnt want that so he didnt do it. (not sure how reliable that information is though) this is completly off the topic but im gonna share it anyways even though im sure you guys knew it allready. I saw somewhere that before enzo made Ferrari he was going to make hings liek tractors but then a frined mentioned he should get involved in race cars and stuff. ( i think thats right but im nto sure on that either)

 

dont get me wrong though i think it owuld be very interesting to see a war of that likes. as good as Ferrari is the Corvette Lemans cars are one of the best Cars in there Division. even against Ferrari and that is saying something.

 

Sorry you've had such bad luck. Out here, the volume dealerships are the ones to avoid which makes it a pretty simple choice, really. Avoid all of them. Except one in LA and one in OC. There's a third one, also located in LA, but its closing. Not sure on the SD area.

One of the master techs at my specialists was a former service manager at one of the dealerships. He was as frustrated as you are and decided to go back to wrenching!

Once you are out of warranty, I suggest you locate someone in the "good old boys" network. These would be the technicians with several decades in the trade, in business for themselves or employed by another member of the "network."

These are the independents that will remain in business long after the dealerships close their doors and have been wrenching long since dealerships have been established.

They are out there. You'll triple how far your $ goes when you do, because their time, skill, and integrity is worth a leapers weight in gold. I travel 150 miles one way and take days off work whenever necessary to ensure only the experts among experts touch my car. How do you know when you find them? A big clue is when they get business off of referrals made by specialists in other states and they smell like Connolly leather.

Sunny

 

I would love to see that as well. Competition only makes the other side work harder

 

LOL...How much HP do you think it makes to be as fast as a CGT/Enzo to 60 mph ?


Happy new year BTW !

 

Tee hee!! Edit: I forgot to add that in C&D, it out braked the Enzo.

In wheel of fortune, you already get the RSTLNE (now). There was yours.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

Sunny

 

So these are still available? I went to 4 dealerships asking them to call me when a deposit could be given when the car was first announced years ago(before seeing it at the NY auto show in 2002). No one knew anything, even called FORD HQ directly and they could not give any info on when it would be available. My understanding was the entire production run was spoken for. I guess I should call them again and see what kind of response I get. Just curious what kind of deposit are they looking for on potentially an 18 month wait?

 

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/specs.asp

If you open your eyes on this official website, it is very clear: 500 hp / 500 lb/ft.

The site have other interesting data and links...

I will probably change my Maserati for this GT when it will be available. In Switzerland it is not a problem to obtain rare cars like F50, Enzo, Carrera GT... There is a F40 and a F50 in the F-dealer at 2 miles of my home.

My 2 cents ;-)

 

I would say clear as mud. It doesn't say where the 500 hp and 500 torque is measured. If measured at the wheels the FWP (which is what all other manufactures quote) could be significantly higher depending on what drivetrain loss the car has.

-- Michael

 

Exactly!

 

The trick is gearing. 1st gear runs to 62-63 MPH so the 0-60 run is done entirely in 1st gear. All the other cars have to do a shift as they get to 48-52 MPH, this costs time.

 

That Corvette is one bad ass car. In my opinoin the whole Chevy Lemans team is great. They really got their **** together. I hope Ford does really well, and brings tough competition directly to Ferrari. Like someone in this topic previously stated, It would be nice to see Ferrari's reaction. Yes, in my opinion Ferrari is the best. If they get their ass kicked by Ford (or any other manufacturer), they wont just pack up and leave. They build something better, come back, and destroy.

 

Rumors are that Chevy will be responding to Ford's GT with an animal they'll call "Blue Thunder" Tentitively a $100K+ Corvette based (loosely) animal.

We sure do live in intersting times.


JD

 

Interesting. This is a plan for '05?

 

It's actually called, "Blue Devil" b/c Rick Wagoner is a Duke alumnus and they wanted to get his attention with it. This information can be found in the Dec. 29, 2003 issue of AW.

Greg A

 

They are priced at 140K because that is what the market research told Ford to price them. The reason a 360 is priced at 179K is because Ferrari market reseach verifies the consumer will pay that price (and much more). The dealers will do thier best to get the EDM just like they did with the Miata, T-bird and dozens of other over hyped cars.
I saw one of the prototype GT's that Ford brought to the Mid-America Shelby meet last summer. Was definately not impressed with the Mustang GT motor under glass. Real hi-tech. Why is the GT compared to the 360 anyway, isn't it Fords flagship, thier masterpiece of technology. Then why not compare it to the Enzo. The answer is due to the price difference, well if Ford thought they could get 660K for the GT they would. Fact is the market would not bear it. There would be unsold GT's at every dealership, not so with the Enzo. Typical price for an Enzo is around 1MM with a list of 660K. The Enzo is truly a masterpiece of technology, from the F1 shifter to the radical areodynamic shape of the car. New and fresh, not a nostalgic remake of a time long past.
Ferrari has and continues to be the mark that all others are judged by, the goal they try to attain. Founded by a man who's dedication to racing was foremost and continued by a company who does no formal advertising and yet set's the standard through inovation without compromise. We would all still be driving black tin lizzys if Henry had his way.
Love the huffer on the Mustang motor, every kit with an '86 Mustang GT will envy you.

 

Why NOT compare two cars that both have mid engine designs, underbody aerodynamics, and gobs of HP.

If the Ford GT was made out of carbon fiber, and had 30 pounds of titanium inside the motor cases, then A) it would cost $450K and B) could legitimately be compared to the Enzo.

and ugly

Did I memtion ugly

That happens to outrun all the cars it has been put up against, so far. 2 sec/lap faster at Gingerman, 5 sec/lap at Laguna Seca (versus 360).