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FORMULA 1 2018 HEINEKEN CHINESE GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    That would make it the fastest race pitstop ever? Last year the fastest was a 2.02 for Massa. In 2016 the fastest was 1.92 for Massa.

    I'm watching the replay, the SKY commentators didn't even notice the record time! LOL. Crofty too busy talking ****.
     
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  2. jgonzalesm6

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    yep, it is the fastest pit stop EVER!!!!
     
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    Strange the DHL award shows only a 2.15s

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  4. jgonzalesm6

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    them and others are also showing the 2.15sec........soooooooo yeah (scratching head).
     
  5. SPEEDCORE

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    The DHL site also has no mention of the 1.83s time.
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    Go to 22s for Bottas stop.


    That might explain why SKY commentary didn't notice. It was indeed fast but not record breaking :p
     
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    aahhh....there it is.
     
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  8. SPEEDCORE

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    I'm reading up on the older times and the teams use the "green light" time and FOM uses "stationary time".

    Rosberg @ Hungarian GP did a 1.73s, FOM recorded 2.15s.
    Massa current record @ European GP was a 1.89 FOM recorded 1.92s.
    Ferrari claimed a 1.85s @ 2015 Japanese GP, FOM recorded 2.24s
     
  9. P.Singhof

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    So an old Massa reacted in 0.03 seconds? Wow...
     
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    Was it Austria last year where Bottas seemed to have jumped the lights out at the start, but it was such a small amount it was incredible.
     
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  11. DF1

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    He didnt. He made the perfect start per the FIA review. If he had jumped they would have penalized him. Vettel had a hard time getting over it. It was shown to him its possible and he didnt like it. Much like safety cars that do not work for his favor LOL
     
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    https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-ricciardo-brutal-overtaking-clash-1026990/

    OMG....Toto starts to whine like the drivers....They say they want to race against each other but as soon as somebody is acutally racing them they cry. What do you expect when the team leader is not better. Lewis whining about Kimi, Lewis whining about Max and Toto about Ricci. It looks like stay start to realize that the WDC and WCC is not a given anymore and that they actually have to work for it.
     
  13. RWatters

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    Doesn't sound like whining to me.
     
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    He says the overtaking was brutal and only worked because Bottas gave in....so he says Ricci forced his way by, the rest is just PC small talk. I would call that either whining or a public slap into the face of Valtteri, your pick
     
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  16. DF1

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135484/mercedes-explains-china-strategy-miscue-further

    The Mercedes Formula 1 team has provided further explanation of the costly strategy decision that opened the door for Red Bull to win the Chinese Grand Prix.

    Red Bull chose to pit both Max Verstappen and Daniel Ricciardo for fresh soft tyres during the Shanghai race's safety car, but Mercedes left Lewis Hamilton - who was running fourth between them - out on his medium compound.

    Ricciardo ultimately won, with Hamilton only fourth.

    Mercedes strategist James Vowles backed team boss Toto Wolff's view that the first half of the race suggested the tyre difference would not be significant enough to justify a stop.

    "The situation across the race at that point was that cars weren't really overtaking even when there was a difference in compound between them," Vowles said in a video released by Mercedes.

    "We had Kimi [Raikkonen] in front [of Hamilton] on the soft tyre, no difference between the two cars, we couldn't even get close.

    "Verstappen was on the ultrasoft tyre [in the first stint], a tyre that was very sensitive and very difficult, and neither Kimi nor Lewis could make any inroads into him at all.

    "The difference between compounds wasn't working out."

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    Vowles said Mercedes' focus was on how many positions Hamilton might lose with a pitstop.

    "Under that safety car condition we always review how many positions we can potentially gain, and how many positions we may lose," he said.

    "So first of all, what would we have gained? Verstappen ahead, we knew there was a chance they would come in with the safety car, and it would put Lewis back up into a podium position if we can take that medium to the end of the race and defend against those cars behind us.

    "The medium on our car was working very, very well. Indeed we knew that you could do 40 laps on it.

    "So the first question is, is a 10-lap old medium going to suffer? The next question is, how many positions are we going to lose behind us?"

    Vowles said Raikkonen having "stayed out very, very long" meant he "was back into what we call the safety car window for Lewis, which meant it would be very, very marginal" to pit and stay ahead of the Ferrari.

    He also underlined that "whatever happened we would be behind Verstappen from then onwards" as the Red Bull was ahead when the safety car appeared.

    Vowles admitted Mercedes did not expect the soft to be so fast at the end of the race.

    "When we laid out all the facts on the table, we didn't believe, based on the earlier evidence, that there would be enough performance differential for a soft to overtake a medium, even one that's 10 laps old," he said.

    "The reality of the situation is that everyone saw what happened: both Red Bulls were extraordinarily quick on that tyre and were able to just scythe through the field."
     
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  19. SPEEDCORE

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    You should be happy you can still see the sky :p
     
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    It does get that way, although I have been lucky enough to be here on crystal clear days as well.
     

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