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FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO HEINEKEN D'ITALIA 2019: QUALIFYING *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Uh? But at Monaco do they work at all?
     
  2. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Monaco was an Italian principality attached to the Republic of Genoa, but the Grimaldis were allowed to run it in full autonomy.
    The region around it used to be Italian too, the County of Nice and part of the now French Alps belonged to the House of Savoia (Milan).
    All that changed during the Napoleonic Wars, and the Unification of Italy in the 19th century.
    Monaco was detached of Italy, to be recognised as an independent country later.
    The French annexed the County of Nice, and the Savoia part on the Ouest of the Alps.

    There are 2 official languages in Monaco, French and Monegasque, an Italian dialect relatively little spoken now.
    Monaco has always had a difficult Relationship with the French state, mostly in terms of customs, taxes, banking regulations, gambling, etc ...
    Several times France threatened to annex Monaco, or terminate its privilèges in the 50s and 60s.
    Prince Rainier had to fend off unwelcome pressure from De Gaulle, and asked the US to intervene to stop the harassment (he was married to an US Citizen).
     
  3. jpalmito

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    As a French i can tell you he looks absolutely French.
    To be honest , if he was a mediocre driver i would say he is a pure monégasque !
     
  4. DeSoto

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    That's a bit stupid, isn't it? Drivers can see the flag, they don't need that someone from FIA asks somebody in the pit to tell the driver that a flag is being waved.

    So much bureacraucy in a situation that is supposed to be dangerous.
     
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  5. jpalmito

    jpalmito Formula Junior

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    Exactly, De Gaulle was very close to send the troops.
    Not sure about the US stopping the harassment.
     
  6. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    If Leclerc becomes very successful, I wouldn't be surprised if the French started claiming him as one of their own.
    They so desperate to show off a good driver after Grosjean and Gasly !!!
     
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  7. TheMayor

    TheMayor Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    You have a point. How the FIA can think this was "good for fans", they must be nuts.
     
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  8. TheMayor

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    The French: The Monégasques are French!

    The Monégasques : Not so fast! :)
     
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  9. william

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    Kennedy visited France in the early 60s, and had a word with De Gaulle.
    Things improved after that.
     
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  10. thirteendog

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    So what’s the ruling on Vettel for his going wide on the last turn during Q3?
     
  11. csmjr91090

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    No further action.
     
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  12. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Not much came out of the stewards investigations so far, or maybe I missed something.
     
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  13. thirteendog

    thirteendog Formula 3

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    Cool, thanks!
     
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  14. ypsilon

    ypsilon Formula 3

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    No, not really:

    "The Italian Grand Prix stewards have reprimanded three drivers for their role in the farcical end to Monza qualifying and urged the FIA to "expedite a solution" for such situations.

    Nico Hulkenberg, Carlos Sainz Jr and Lance Stroll have all been handed reprimands for driving unnecessarily slowly ahead of the final runs in qualifying."

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/145847/stewards-urge-fia-to-find-rapid-fix-for-q3-queues
     
  15. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    I realise reading it back.... but I wrote in my mind chuck, as in throw, HULK AND STROLL to the back..... not Chuck, Hulk and Strol! Sorry for the confusion
     
  16. stavura

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    Lolololo more F1 comedy. What a ****ing mess!
     
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  17. daytona355

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    Elton apparently tried to get LeClerc and vettel investigated by the FIA for leaving the track with intent.... what a whiny little prat the guy is, total rat bastard
     
  18. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    A "reprimand" doesn't amount to much in fact.
     
  19. ingegnere

    ingegnere Formula 3
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    Exactly. Don't point finger at the real perpetrators as identified by the FIA but feign being the victim and point instead at your most direct opponents, like he did in Montreal, where he tried to walk it back after he was embarrassed by the jeers.

    You wanna try to like the guy but he's a real little weasel.
     
  20. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

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    He blamed it all on Ferrari...whining **** that he is. ''Ferrari timed everyone out''. What a sore ****ing loser this guy is. He had 6.5 minutes to get out after red flag and didn't. Whose fault is it?
     
  21. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Nailed it.
     
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  22. 375+

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    Is that anything like Stop, Drop and Roll?
     
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  23. fer312t

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    Provide link please.
     
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  24. The Strad

    The Strad Formula 3
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    What happened in the last 2 minutes of today's qualifying, is a disgrace to the sport. The only real solution to this is disqualifying, all 10 of them.
    Even Sainz and Leclerc, who got past the red light in time, should be penalised, they, just like the 8 other drivers, drove too slow. They should, all 10, be kicked out of the Monza circuit for the rest of the weekend.
    They were anti-sports. That needs a good lesson. 10 idiots looking for a slipstream that no other idiot was going to give them. They preferred to be late and not better their lap times.
    And the teams that were looking at it like blind morons, incredible.
    F1, what a decadent , ridiculous, monkey business it has become. "May the best win", ever heard about that, you f.cking FIA?
     
  25. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Today wasn't a glorious day for F1; that's for sure !
     
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