FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2016: QUALIFYING *** SPOILERS ***

...... and hire Dan

 

It was over when the regs were set in place in 2014, and never had any chance of any result other than Mercedes winning championships. We may all watch f1 religiously, but I certainly don't believe anyone gets up looking forward to a Ferrari win, or chance of a win, like we once did when f1 was really f1.

Now all the drama is the trash talking, both by the players and on this forum.

I've spent 40 years following f1, and whereas I had butterflies in the morning before the races as bad as if I was actually in the race, I can barely find the enthusiasm to make sure I get the TV on in time for the start now, it's more habit than a need to see the race. It's a shame, because f1 was a massive part of my downtime, but it holds little value at the moment. We don't have to see Ferrari win, but we need to feel they have a shot (or anyone has a shot).

 

Hard rain here in Monaco at the moment...

 

Looking forward to a great race. Few high clouds from Collioure!

La webcam de Collioure - Conseil Départemental des Pyrénées-Orientales

 

If it rains in the race, ricci strategy is shot, his plan was to run as long as he wants on the supers, and play out others stuck on ultras. Still, rain should still suit him as they will all start on wet tyres and pit about the same times

 

hammer hitting wheel at RB.
One of Max's wheels has seized on.

 

He's still starting on pole, which is a huge advantage at this circuit whatever happens with the weather.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Funny how it works, isn't it...a blow for Ricci, since he had such a good strategy (still starting up front of course), but for Verstappen it's a big advantage to start with a wet setup

 

According to brundle previously, not much difference in settings save a bit more wing apparently anyway

 

Brakes etc are controlled from the wheel, as are engine maps, so I doubt there's much advantage?

 

I would have said entirely the opposite. The wetter the less the "track position" advantage.

 

Why?

 

Watch and learn

 

Very helpful

 

Glad you're here to tell us these things.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

That was so slick, I almost missed the tag

I said it in the race thread, perhaps you both missed it in your fervor to pass the baton here, but I was thinking about the 84 race at Monaco. That was in the wet. Ayrton drove from outside the top 10 into 2nd I think and there was another stonking drive from a German driver from the back of the grid up to 3rd I think, although he was DQ'd.

 

Absolutely.

As repeated by the commentators and some drivers, you cannot pass at Monaco without the cooperation of the slower driver. If he doesn't yield , you are heading for an accident. Even Hamilton said it not later than yesterday.

Therefore getting pole is very important, even more when it's wet, for visibility reason: the leader doesn't drive through the spray his followers have to endure.

 

It's still remain that being on pole at Monaco is an immense advantage, whatever heroics from the past make you believe.

Ask any driver if he prefers to start from the back of the grid or from pole, and see what answer you get!!

 

I have no idea what relevance that has to the discussion, but thanks for the input.

What I said specifically about Monaco was "the wetter it is, the less meaning track position has". Which both yesterday and history has proven completely true.

 

was it true? I still don't understand how.

 

I think what it means is that ricciardo caught Elton, on some laps up to 3 seconds faster per lap, very quickly after his stop for inters, yet couldn't pass despite the extra speed, and again on the softs, ricci had a lot more speed and grip, but bar one move which was unfairly defended (and for anyone else would have generated a drive thru) couldn't make a pass stick.

 

When it's wet, the driver following has spray in his face and likely will have to move off the drying racing line in order to facilitate a pass. This means the overtaker is both unsighted on the racing line and submerged to dramatically less grip off it.

I disagree that the race yesterday proved your statement to be correct.

All the best,
Andrew.