FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2023 - Monaco....Race.... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

That's fine. I'll keep watching Indy car and F1. But Indy car is the better series. Better cars. Mix of street, road and ovals. The 500 is the most prestigious race in the world. AFGAIK, only 5 F1 champs have won the 500. Most never even tried. Jimmy Clark, Graham. Hill, Mario Andretti, Emerson Fittipaldi, Jacques Villeneuve. I'd love to see any F1 driver enter the 500. Better than wasting their time at Monaco. I think most would agree that Monaco is a waste of time these days. My interest in F1 is all but dead.

 

It remains Team Hamilton

Poor George

 

Watching the indy right now..much better than that thing we called a race this morning..the pit lane is insane..

 

In pure racing terms, I tend to agree: being a specs series, Indycar is better than F1
Since all the teams race the same car, there is total parity; it's a true drivers championship that doesn't try to be anything else.
F1 wants to be a constructors championship as well, and that decides the result to a point.
In F1, the title can only go to a driver with one of the 2 or 3 best cars; so results are often predictable.

 

Not a word was said when the race was cancelled via COVID. ZERO press. Its not a memorable event at all now.

 

I'd say take what we can get but....

 

only till they get busted for blood doping...oh...that's bicycles...

sjd

 

Powered by Honda for the win but a wacky set of placings P1, 12, 15, 16
Perez was like how many problems can I create in a single weekend?

 

Burning wood and coal is now green so never say never.

 

F1 screwed up being a constructors series when they imposed the "cost cutting" restrictions.
A constructor's series has to let the constructors improve the cars.
Engine freezes and limiting the number of engines, gearboxes, etc., for the year is putting "spec series" elements into what was supposed to be a maker's race.
So they're getting the worst of both.

IM(ns)HO, FIA shouldn't be trying to "achieve parity", but should be looking only at what tech applies to street cars.
Banning the mass dampers a while back was dumb. It's something that, if developed on the track, might have been useful in production cars.
The full carbon brakes are useless on street cars. Restricting that would make the racing better, since drivers couldn't use 100% braking on every corner, but would have to pick when to heat the brakes.
Mandating hybrids was overreach. Perhaps just specify emissions limits, and let the designers figure it out.
(I hate when rule makers pretend to be engineers.)

 

What a boring ‘race’. The dullest procession of the year. Thank goodness it’s over. No surprise that max destroyed the field again - best driver this year in the best car this year. RB still on course to win 100% of this years races. A feat for the ages if they pull it off.

Unless the cars get significantly smaller, this race will be just a bizarre curiosity. It also seems odd that, in this era of cost caps, every team is forced to design a completely stupid spec package just to get round this pointless circuit.

On reflection, the most relevant and noteworthy lesson from this ‘race’ was for pappa stroll. Sorry, but your boy is even worse than originally thought. His points deficit to the 41 year old washed up Alonso is staggering. Any other driver would have been fired by now…

 

Alonso is anything but washed up. Lance is not even close to his level of experience.. that is the difference.

 

Still the best all around driver on the grid.

 

He’s certainly an amazing racer. No doubt. He’s always had that skill- from his very start in F1. Unlike Stroll who is frankly an embarrassment to the team with zero race craft.

 

Yes, yes, we know. But if it wasn't for Stroll Sr, maybe Alonso wouldn't be in F1 anymore, so try to see the other side of the coin.

If Lawrence Stroll hadn't stepped in when Force India went turtle, probably the team would have been bought by a Russia: Mazepin.
God knows where that team would be now with the embargo on Russian companies !!!

 

It's OK. This way, we get to see Alonso's paternal and diplomatic side.

Right there with the flower smelling. Hope he gets one win this year to cap off the fairy tale.

Freaking awesome.

 

Both are boring. I hate the confining narrowness of the engine parameters and long for the days when you had much more diversity and creatively, kind of like what innovators like Jim Hall and his Chaparrals brought to the CanAm series. The races that I NEVER watch are the ones where all of the drivers compete in same car. BORING.

 

I don't think we could recreate anything that resemble CanAm now.
Technology would run away and most circuits would be unable to cope.
At the moment WEC and IMSA have to impose huge restrictions on car development to keep the racing safe.
But it was sure fun to watch when it existed !!! I loved it !!!

 

One of those rules makers was Ross Brawn. Pretty much the top in his trade. FIA had to impose cost cutting or risk losing nearly all of the grid.

 

Counterpoint on Lawrence Stroll. He is getting a lot more out of the AM team than expected so that increases the value of the team. He is also investing in the AM street cars (note the DB12 announced this week that has an interior putting Ferrari to shame). So it is likely he will improve the street car business and is in the right direction with the F1 team. If he really gets World beating Honda power in the future, how many will be trying to kick sand in his face?

 

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I lost interest in racing in general, from NASCAR to Indy to F1 to even short track. It's a bit sad but racing has to compete in a world with a lot more options, short attention spans, and better management (at least, by comparsion).

 

Seeing racecars with the length of a Maybach 57 trying to clear Fairmont has all the sporting elegance of a 100 meters sprint in heels. The cars need to be at least 100 cm shorter before Monaco can become anything close to a race again. Otherwise, keep it on the calendar in a revised format, with only qualifying or a one lap shoot-out or something. Snoozefest

 

I went to Monaco in 81 (never again) and was told that approx 40% of (monaco's) revenue is raised during this one event. I could tell looking at the cost of a cuppa. Extortion at it's most greediest.

If its removed from the calendar, Monaco is sunk as a tax haven. Cannot have that...can we
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Tony