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FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO PETROBRAS DO BRASIL 2015: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. Aircon

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    Yes....and that's another interesting question. How hard was Nico pushing to win this race? Is it a tyre and fuel conservation battle from turn 1? We've seen time and time again that whichever Mercedes driver is in the lead doesn't get challenged from the other one because of the turbulence causing too much tyre degradation and MAYBE fuel use too.

    I assume that at least qualifying in Q3 is flat out.

    And it's true that if all of them could run flat out for almost all the time, racing would be much more interesting.
     
  2. kraftwerk

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    I asked you to show me where I had posted the actual wording of what you wrote, and you cannot, because it is a fabrication, plus the fact it was taken out of context.

    I was offering the two ways of looking at it, and it looks like by Merc refusing to let Hamilton run his own strategy call, Merc did not want Hamilton to challenge Nico, I do not know this for a fact, so this to me is just a common sense viewpoint, it is no discredit to Nico or Hamilton, so why are you twisting the statement to say it is me personally that said that.

    Nice try PP I see you haven't changed, obviously your time out has taught you nothing, stick to cricket.
     
  3. IanMac

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    I admit to not reading every post in this thread carefully (why would you? ;)), but I don't recall anyone claiming he was God.
     
  4. william

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    That's why motor racing is becoming a bore and motorcycle racing is not.

    Aeros is what has destroyed almost all forms of car racing, because cars rely too much on downforce. When downforce is compromised, racing becomes very difficult for those catching up.

    That's why MotoGP is still very entertaining with plenty of overtaking during a race when F1 is not. Bikes don't have downforce.

    I think that's why they re-introduced pit stops for tyres and fuel in the 80s; to spice the races and obtain changes of positions in the pits, rather than on the track.


    Aeros and sticky tyres ...
     
  5. kraftwerk

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    Show the posts that say "Lewis is God", I'am genuinely intrigued.
     
  6. william

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    But there is an undeniable personality cult though ...
     
  7. kraftwerk

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    LOL you sure about that, am sure he could bring a few quid to the table, I jest..:)

    Yes horses for courses, I have no problem with that, I hope you daughter goes along with you deciding her future tastes in blokes ;)
     
  8. IanMac

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    I just took a quick look and in the first eighty odd posts in this thread there were several having a go at Hamilton, either explicitly or implicitly, and no posts at all from the so called 'fanboys'. So who is provoking whom?
     
  9. P.Singhof

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    SERIOUSLY??? You are the master of twisting words and turning it in other people´s mouth and then you split hairs about "actual wording"???
    You said you never mentioned "Merc do not let Rosberg race Hamilton" and now you just did it for the second time...Are you kidding me? But I will only do full quotes of you in future if you think this was "out of context"...
    So what did I miss in this quote for "full context"? You are labeling all others as haters in general and then you get tender about "actual wording". What is the sense in arguing with you anymore?
    None of the Hamilton fanboys ever mentioned the "Merc refusing to let ... run his own strategy call" when it affected Rosberg, now as it affects Hamilton you and toil "mention" it...Looks to me like another excuse when Hamilton does not win although you are sure that he is actually quicker. If he was quicker, why did he not drive on pole in the last 5 races?
     
  10. william

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    My daughter knows what's good for her, and would never bring a rapper at my house, however rich he is; what she does outside is her business.
     
  11. william

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    The provocation started long time ago ...
     
  12. Aircon

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    You do realise, of course, that's poetic licence, right? It's an interpretation of what's said, not literal.
     
  13. Aircon

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    Cricket???? I don't even know the rules!
     
  14. kraftwerk

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    Take my advice on this, if you are going to quote me, quote my actual words, do not make your own version of it, then we will not have a problem ;)
     
  15. Aircon

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    You are correct.....they didn't want Lewis to challenge Nico, just like the don't want Nico to challenge Lewis. They made a decision that both drivers will always be on the same strategy, and that's been the case all year. How come it was never something you brought up with lewis was winning?

    Sometimes that works in Lewis' favour, this time it worked in Nico's favour.

    So, again, whoever is leading of the two will usually stay there.
     
  16. Aircon

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    You're out of line....whilst Peter didn't quote you verbatim, he certainly was accurate in the meaning of your words.

    Are you being so pedantic over it because you know you were wrong? That's ok....lewis makes mistakes too, if that makes you feel better....lol
     
  17. kraftwerk

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    haha neither do I'd be totally out of my depth, I do know you lot are good at it ;)

    I do like Rugby, but I don't want to discuss that .........:eek:
     
  18. kraftwerk

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    Quit whilst you think you are ahead mate..
     
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    It seems like a perfectly logical decision from a constructor's point of view.

    Mercedes dominates and if its drivers finish regularly first and second, the team gathers the most points counting for the WCC and the prize fund.
    Mercedes don't need to let its drivers off the leach to dice and risk contact, with loss of points, etc...
    The order is more or less settled after a few laps (sometimes the first corner), and without incident, Mercedes expects them to hold station and finish in the same order.

    It must be noted that when Hamilton took over the strategy, at Monaco, he made the wrong call and loss himself the race. Surprising that he didn't ask about Rosberg tyre degradation there!!! Ha, ha, ha ...
     
  20. P.Singhof

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    Or I do not quote you at all in future...Then we do not have a problem either ;)
    You say "so this to me is just a common sense viewpoint" but you argue that it is not "your viewpoint" because you did not explicit say so...that is only splitting hairs, and you call me politician...
    It is ridiculous how you set standards to others you never met yourself...
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    Put on ignore Pete, that's the safe bet ;)
     
  22. IanMac

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    And you like to keep it going?
     
  23. Aircon

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    all correct IMO Makes perfect sense to me.
     
  24. P.Singhof

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    Exactly what I said several times now but without being able to answer this we are splitting hairs about "actual wording"...Kindergarten
     
  25. Aircon

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    Too quiet otherwise.
     

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