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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  2. SS454

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    Come on Ferrari! But also, go get that podium Fernando Alonso!
     
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  3. schumacherf2006

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    I want to see Alonso on the podium tomorrow. Here’s to Red Bull blowing an engine and Lewis out of the top 8! Chaos
     
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  4. jgonzalesm6

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    Enjoy and have a laugh. This guy is a riot.

    F1 2023 Preview Impressions

     
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  5. Temerian

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    Russell takes out Alonso at the start and damages his own car- retires mid race, Charles pips Checco to the first turn and Ferrari perfectly execute an undercut to finish 1 and 3. I can dream can’t I?
     
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  6. steved033

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    stroll takes out both mercs in a lack of braking planning.

    sjd
     
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  7. Javierix

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    Assuming no DNFs at the top, I’m expecting a P4 and P5 for Ferrari.
     
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  8. DF1

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    Always the tires! Can Ferrari get good wear and distance?
    RedBull have good race pace. Ferrari if not leading will need to be aware of Aston and possibly Mercedes.

    if Checo has better start and leads that might complicate Horners’ evening lol!
     
  9. DF1

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    Via GP Blog:
    Stroll also broke his toe: "I couldn't move both hands and I couldn't walk"
     
  10. stavura

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    I don’t get why they don’t tell him to sit a few races out, he’s clearly still struggling.

    Hopefully he doesn’t become a hazard.
     
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    Sainz believes Leclerc could have “an opportunity to challenge the Red Bulls” after Leclerc and Ferrari opted to sacrifice his final qualifying run to save a set of tyres based on what the race simulations from practice two showed.

    I hope Fred's orders have been pretty ******* clear about the race start. Sainz needs stay out of Leclerc's way, and let him freely challenge the bulls to turn 1. Sainz needs to only focus on keeping the Merc engine cars behind him.
     
  12. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Yes that’s obvious but the FIA seem lost. He is dangerous already and no certification he can drive safely but they obsess on a nose ring. Interesting priorities
     
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  13. DF1

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    Sure tell a race driver on Race-1 in a competitive car to hold back lol!
     
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    He hasn't been "competitive" the whole weekend compared to his teammate.
    Ferrari pitwall made decicion to save better tires for his faster teammate, giving up front row.
    It would be absolutely braindead by the Scuderia to have Sainz take a lunge on Leclerc at the start. It would ruin the intent of their strategy completely.
     
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  15. DF1

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    Carlos needs to be as fast as possible in case Charles is not getting a good start, and what BETTER way to ruin team harmony on Race1 with OVERT team orders lol
     
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  16. jpalmito

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    Since they let Kubica drive, everything is tolerated.
     
  17. Top speed

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    Team harmony? Sounds more like babying Sainz. There is only one driver capable fighting for the WDC in the team, and he isn't from Spain.
     
  18. DF1

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/what-f1-gps-data-tells-us-about-red-bull-ferrari-and-aston-martin/10439918/

    What F1 GPS data tells us about Red Bull, Ferrari and Aston Martin
    Red Bull has locked out the front row of the grid for the 2023 Bahrain Grand Prix by almost perfectly mimicking what thrust Ferrari into title contention at the start of last year.

    By: Matt Kew
    Mar 5, 2023, 9:54 AM

    And for good measure, the latest creation to come out of Maranello excels in the very same areas of the Sakhir circuit as the now-retired RB18. Imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery.

    How Verstappen drew first blood
    Max Verstappen bagged his 21st and latest pole position in Formula 1 courtesy of a 1m29.708s effort. He pipped team-mate Sergio Perez by 0.138s as 2022 championship rival Charles Leclerc ranked third, 0.292s in arrears with a 1m30s dead. Twelve months previously, it was the Ferrari driver who edged ahead, with Verstappen completing the front row 0.123s down on Leclerc’s 1m30.558s.

    Back then, at the dawn of a new ground-effects era, the RB18 was 10kg overweight. Meanwhile, the Ferrari was far kinder to the scales and its lighter weight was teamed with an urgent engine to produce class-leading acceleration out of the low speed corners. Now, though, it’s the RB19 that can’t be caught under initial power, even though Leclerc is quicker to pick up the throttle out of the tight Turn 1 right-hander on their critical Q3 laps.

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    But Verstappen’s advantage is short-lived. Down the backstraight on the approach to Turn 4, it’s the SF-23 that enjoys the superior top speed as Leclerc hits 189mph before stamping on the brakes. That compares favourably to his rival’s 187mph. Interestingly, once again, the two cars are displaying the opposite traits as to how they performed at this track a year ago when the Red Bull had the legs in a straight line.

    The RB19 appears to produce the superior downforce though as Verstappen is the quicker through the right-hander and then the more violent medium-speed Turn 7. But between these two bends, through the more flowing middle sector, Leclerc is setting the pace. And so, the trend is set for the remainder of the lap. The Red Bull accelerates better than the Ferrari out of the circuit’s most recognisable corner, the tight, downhill left of Turn 10 before carrying more speed through the fifth-gear Turn 12 ascent.

    Verstappen continues to find the time through Turn 13 to give him a superior run on to the penultimate straight. But the lower-drag Ferrari can only be kept behind for so long. Leclerc is another 2.5mph faster into the final braking zone. Of note, he outperforms the Red Bull through the apex (one aspect that has carried over directly from 2022) before the Milton Keynes creation sets the standard under acceleration. It’s not until the timing line that the Ferrari is able to finally match the Red Bull’s speed at 182mph.

    What about the ‘dark horse’?
    The lower-speed prowess that contributes to Verstappen’s near three-tenth advantage over Leclerc becomes more interesting when Fernando Alonso’s earlier Q3 lap is overlaid. So far 2023’s surprise package, the Aston Martin impressed in testing and set the pace in FP2 and FP3 before slipping to fifth in qualifying, an eventual 0.628s adrift after Alonso ran out-of-sync by starting his sole flier with almost five full minutes of the top 10 shootout remaining.

    The two-time champion appears to be doing most of his heavy lifting on the brakes. He’s better than both of Verstappen and Leclerc at getting the car stopped into Turn 1. Ditto for the more substantial decelerations into Turns 8, 10 and 11. Having starred also at the lowest apex speeds, he seems to have access to greater mechanical grip.

    Yet his AMR23 is the slowest of the trio on the straights. He’s nearly 4mph down on the main straight and for the run into Turn 11. Although he is a match for the Red Bull into the final corner, he just can’t quite keep up for the dash to the timing line, however, as the Aston is out of puff and 3mph short of its rivals.
     
  19. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    This is true, but the circumstances are quite different.

    1) Kubica just didn't have a crash a week ago with pins in his body. It was over 6 months till he stepped into an F1 car.

    2) Kubica needed to extricate himself out of the HALO without assistance should he be involved in another F1 crash.

    Stroll has "leverage" to see his son in an F1 car given his sons accident. While I don't agree with it, Lance Stroll hasn't convinced me or the FIA that he can extricate himself out of an F1 car given the limitations of his wrists to put that much load on his wrists to exit out of the HALO WHILE there are still pins in his wrist(s). It's too soon for Lance.
     
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  20. DF1

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    How he is driving and needing help to leave the car is simply amazing in the lack of interest by the FIA. OMG - Stroll is paying the FIA NOT TOTO LOL :)
     
  21. Bas

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    How badly broken is Stroll's wrist? Is it chipped?

    Alonso drove with broken hands last year as well, didn't seem to affect him much.

    It's been a while since I broke something, since Stroll's was fixed with keyhole surgery I think his injury isn't as severe, in which case the risk is mostly his own, surely. He struggled with the wheel on Friday but seemed fine yesterday. Only getting out is an issue, but could be a case for not wishing to put too much pressure on to accelerate the recovery rather than finding it impossible to get out.
     
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  22. jgonzalesm6

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    Agreed. God forbid anything doesn't happen to Stroll while in the race should he need to extricate himself out of the car.....but IF he needed to, that picture of him being helped out of the F1 car will prove damaging to Lawrence Stroll and the FIA should they go to court regarding the safety of an individual in a F1 car given that individuals mitigating circumstances.
     
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  23. 375+

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    ^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^
     
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  25. PureEuroM3

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    He was struggling before these injuries :D
     
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