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  1. Jean-Pierre Marchand

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    I would say some. I wouldn't say many.
     
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  2. DF1

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    No system of management is perfect. Flaw is normal.
    Mercedes do appear, appear I state to have a let them race policy until a clear leader is evident.
    Ferrari do not and are suffering in my opinion. Charles and Vettel should race until there is a clear leader. Too early to protect either one and there should be no team orders so early at all. If you want a position, drive to attain it.
     
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  3. TheMayor

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    #428 TheMayor, Apr 14, 2019
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    Oh give me a BREAK.

    Brown WANTED this job. HE is the one making the decisions the last 3 years. HE dumped Honda for Renault. HE supported his engineers over the concerns of Honda's engineers. HE let Alonso bad mouth their major sponsor. HE is the one promoting Alonso at Indy taking resources and focus away. HE was the one that was supposed to be so good at getting money from sponsors.

    McLaren may have been in disarray but Brown put them in the toilet they are in now, racing with Toro Rosso, Racing Point and Williams

    Think about this. Just what if Brown said to his engineers -- maybe we are doing this all wrong. Maybe we should listen to Honda more and our chassis restrictions less. Maybe we can make this 10 year exclusive deal work after all if we are just be a bit more flexible.

    You know -- like RB did.
     
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  4. DF1

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    We were told by experts, former drivers etc how clear the Ferrari was in all conditions. Easy to drive etc. So much not the case even taking 'development' out of the equation. I did expect them to be more competitive but were just slightly better than 1 Red Bull actually. I understand circuit-specific changes but the propaganda said we would see Ferrrari, so well balanced be the overall best car. Not yet, its a long season but Im doubtful now after 3 different places and for the most part Mercedes seem a bit more adaptable??????
     
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  5. Jean-Pierre Marchand

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    Which, of course, comes at the risk of calamity. At least the Ferrari pit wall is aware of the risks involved in that.
     
  6. Korr

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    The same Seb that didn't get it done in 2017 and 2018 and is still in the team? If they were going to get rid of him, they would have done it by now. He'll leave Ferrari before Ferrari leaves him.
     
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  7. DF1

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    The cards held are closely held now in terms of Vettel and a contract. He is the only one repeating he has a contract until a certain date. There is not much coming out from the team at all. Means nothing or something. If he makes more similar mistakes like the last 2 years, I dont see how the team retain him at all. His reputation is already damaged and there is young capable talent around as well. I would not hire him. His best years have been gone now and his lack of real race craft is evident as well. He has 4 titles and the legacy after is not very good, given the 4 titles he holds.

    He may improve and take the title this year. Yes that is possible but history is not showing it yet. His last 2 years results are one of failure in the larger scheme. Im certain not easy to live with as a driver. It is now weekly a topic.
     
  8. P.Singhof

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    I think it was a missunderstanding... I missread "resign" with "re-sign"....
     
  9. DF1

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    LOL - Charles Leclerc says his long second stint in the Chinese Grand Prix was a ploy by Ferrari to try to help his Formula 1 team-mate Sebastian Vettel catch Valtteri Bottas. via Autosport.

    What a waste of talent lol.
     
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  10. william

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    You are 100% right !!!

    The fortunes of McLarenF1 have definitely have taken a turn for the worst since Zak Brown came in.

    He listened too much to Alonso's moaning, and endorsed all his whims.

    Now the team has lost all credibility; it can't attract good engineers, nor recruit top line drivers, and it has lost its main sponsors.
     
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  11. william

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    Most teams used to let their drivers compete freely against each other in the past. Only towards the 2/3 of the season, the second placed in the team received instructions, where needed, to defer to his team mate to help him win the championship, or improve his ranking.
    Giving teams orders so early in the season is counterproductive, IMO, and may demoralise a driver.
    I think team orders are characteristic of F1, I doubt if they are in use in feeder series (F2, F3 and F4, or in Indycar).
     
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    Yet they are noticeably improved this season . . .
     
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    I would like to believe that, but it's too early to judge.
    They are also saddled with the Renault engine which is underpowered when it isn't unreliable these days.
     
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    SKY F1 evaluation of the season so far after China - https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11688579/mercedes-ahead-of-ferrari-in-china-has-f1-2019-revealed-its-true-face

    Sky F1's Nico Rosberg, meanwhile, believes Ferrari have dug themselves a hole with their SF90.

    "I'm hearing from the Ferrari guys that they've got their car in the wrong aerodynamic window at the moment," said the 2016 world champion. "They need to make changes internally but it's going to take time.

    "They're only very good in the ultra high-speed tracks at the moment but as soon as there are more corners, then they're struggling."
     
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    If by toilet you mean year over year improvement since they left Honda? BWHAHAHA, you sure have an odd way of seeing things. If the Honda is so good, why are RBR still #3, and why did TR lose spots last year while McLaren gained them? Don't let facts cloud your vision, man.
     
  16. TheMayor

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    FACTS?

    McLaren isn't even any better than Renault's own team.
     
  17. Makuono

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    ... in 2018 the championship started with a very strong Ferrari's lead.

    Let's see if the same happens in 2019 to the leader. Difficult, but not impossible.
     
  18. lagunacc

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    Ricciardo and Verstappen would outclass Vettel as much as Leclerc.
    F's strategy is as retro(grade) as Vettel's mustache.
     
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    Ferrari has a massive budget , they can afford the best and yet they come short . One has to take Nico’s comments at face value , he has access to more information that all of us . What that means is that heads have to roll at SF , the team is not working cohesively and it is up against a well oiled outfit that is on top of its game right now , MB .
     
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    Provocation by Mercedes cheerleaders on a ferrari focussed forum, I don’t see why I can’t have my say when they’ve had theirs.
     
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    Because you are pro ferrari and we wouldn’t want the forum to be biased.
     
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  22. Bas Jaski

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    Agree with all. Safe for Verstappen's outbursts from frustration his driving has matured quite a bid. Last year he'd have crashed with Vettel when Vettel gave him exactly 1 Red Bull's worth of width.
     
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    Or maybe it's because he can't express himself unless he uses words like "pricks" and "scum".
     
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  24. Bas Jaski

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    It's interesting to see who Vettel's replacement will be. Mick too early to say so I think likely choice will be between Ricciardo and Max...Max won't leave Red Bull if that engine is indeed good enough, that chassis will be fixed and so will any aero issues, unless a championship winning car is on offer.

    I'd say Hulkenberg makes a good chance now also.
     
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  25. Bas Jaski

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    This isn't a kindergarden I'm sure we've all heard a swearword before.
     
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